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Unknown Painting and Artist

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Ansel Adams
 
Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 03:29 pm
Can you help me identify this painting please. It is painted on wood with ornate edges.
Size: roughly 24 inch wide by 12 inches tall
I have magnified the image 4 times and can not find any identifiable signature

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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 03:31 pm
@Ansel Adams,
Mona Lisa?
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 03:32 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Dang It...how do I upload an image.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 03:33 pm
@Ansel Adams,
Ooh....I know this one!

'Three Men in a Pub, Looking at a Marrow'.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 03:36 pm
You add it to a photo image website, like photobucket or imgur or facebook and use the url that will show up there. These types of websites have directions to follow.

Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 03:57 pm
@ossobuco,
I am working on it. Hold tight I will get it up there.


VIOLA

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/MissionRanch/DSCN1555_zps4597f148.jpg



ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 04:04 pm
@Ansel Adams,
I can see it on my iMac if I hold down my control button and click on what on a mac is a question mark with in a blue square.

I use photo bucket, and copy the large URL thing, the last of the possibilities to the right.

Problem is, it might be different for people with pc's.

Anyway, I've no idea about the painting, but maybe someone else will help on that.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 04:05 pm
@ossobuco,
While I posted, it has shown up. Good, then.
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 04:32 pm
@ossobuco,
Thank you for the help. It is similar to other forum's .... just had to sort out the details.

Soooo, What do you make of this image?? I have taken this thing to 200 % and still can not find the artist signature. It has been in our family roughly 70 years but I do not know the actual age of the piece.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 04:57 pm
Maybe it was originally part of a set of these..
Maybe something is scratched on the back?
Check back, other people who might know may show up later.
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 05:04 pm
@ossobuco,
I have been all over this painting front to back, side to side. I can't find a thing.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 10:13 pm
@Ansel Adams,
It looks like a 'rustic' copy of Raphael.

Very probably Spanish. St George is patron saint to quite a few places, including Aragon and Catalonia, both in Spain.

I'll go and find the Raphael.....
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 10:15 pm
http://www.zbths.k12.il.us/cms/lib06/IL01000825/Centricity/Domain/138/Pictures/St%20George%20and%20the%20Dragon.jpg
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2014 10:18 pm
But then again, the Raphael could be an exceptionally well executed copy of your older painting.

It certainly looks old.
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 05:58 am
@Lordyaswas,
WOW Good work. Let me look deeper into this.
Thank you for your expertese
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 11:22 am
@Ansel Adams,
Why I said it might be part of a set (thus having the signature on some other part) is that to me it looks like a piece of lumber clean at the top and bottom and rough sawn on the left and right.
Naturally I could be way off on that.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 11:32 am
@ossobuco,
It certainly looks like a panel, Osso, and you're probably right in thinking that this is just a part of something bigger.
My guess, if it IS genuinely old, is that it is part of an old Spanish Church artwork, and probably painted by a local artist.

I've no idea how much it would be worth, but I'm guessing that it's not exactly an old Master. I think they call this type of work 'naive'.

Wouldn't do any harm to send a few piccies to a well respected Art Gallery or Auctioneer, just in case.
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 06:52 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Thank you for the responses.
I called Museum of Art in DC and they suggested an appraiser.
I called and emailed Strathmore and she said it did not look like Raphael's brush strokes but could tell me little beyond that.
I will take some pics of the back and sides to see if there is a clue there.
Hold that thought.


[IMG]http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/MissionRanch/media/DSCN1948_zps7d35b0f2.jpg.html][IMG]
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 07:12 pm
@Ansel Adams,
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/MissionRanch/DSCN1948_zps7d35b0f2.jpg


This is facing up
Ansel Adams
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 07:13 pm
@Ansel Adams,
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/MissionRanch/DSCN1951_zps0e7fc7fd.jpg

This is facing down. You can see glue where the painting broke and it was glued back together. The wood is uneven throughout
 

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