Who is voting this November and why should you bother?

@roger,

Aw, well, you usually vote for other side. Just kidding, glad you're voting anyway.

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@revelette2,

I really wanted to cancel out C.I.'s vote, but he's staying home that day.

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@roger,

Since I didn't vote, your vote was worth double. Mr. Green

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I certainly intend to vote...and I will do so with pride.

I have a feeling this election will not be kind to the agenda I favor...but sometimes the ball bounces in your direction...sometimes in the other.

If the Republicans actually gain control of both houses of congress...we are in for some very hard times. In one way, I think something like that is what we need to try to knock some sense into the people who keep supporting these miscreants on the right. It might teach them something about "be careful about what you with for."

We'll see.

But I most assuredly will vote.

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@cicerone imposter,

Will be. I'm recalling an election in the late 90's that forced me to vote for a Democrat, and the important information came out at the tail end of the early voting period. No early voting for me.

PS: You haven't given up your right to bitch.

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@roger,

Some people equate not voting to giving up our right to complain about our political system.

Most rights were won when they didn't have any rights.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Some people equate not voting to giving up our right to complain about our political system.

It is like sitting around a messy house complaining about the house being messy and not doing a thing to clean it up.

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@revelette2,

Terrible analogy. Messy house doesn't have any relationship to voting or our political system.

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@Frank Apisa,

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If the Republicans actually gain control of both houses of congress...we are in for some very hard times. In one way, I think something like that is what we need to try to knock some sense into the people who keep supporting these miscreants on the right. It might teach them something about "be careful about what you with for."

Yes, if the GOP gains control of both houses optimism will quickly fade with little hope for the immediate future. The first thing these political operatives will do is give a huge cut to the rich; the next thing they will do is expand the Keystone XL Pipeline. They will chip away at the ACA and insurance companies will then be allowed to charge outrageous prices for prescriptions. The GOP serves the interest of the super rich, major corporations, mega companies; they will do away with unions. But such atrocious actions against the American people will galvanize them to rise up collectively to make sure they kick the assholes out next time.

People do not hesitate to complain and moan because the wrong politicians are in office; when you ask them if they voted, they say "NO" I did not vote. Well if one did not cast a vote and participate in the voting process along with many others who say "No" we did not vote, then I frankly cannot see what they're shrieking about. That is what is wrong with our system; most Americans only concentrate on the head of the ticket, the presidency, and know little or nothing about the local governmental positions which help to shape the way things should be more to our liking.

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@Moment-in-Time,

I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure that the American people will be up in arms when the GOP takes away their health insurance and the crumbs on the table that they now have. Why, you ask? It's because this situation has been in the making for over ten years, and the GOP keeps getting the votes - not only nationally but locally too! They've been working to disenfranchise voters, take away ACA by voting 54 times to repeal it, have not approved immigration reform or a minimum wage increase, took the rights away from women to have health care, over 90% gridlock in congress (don't forget that the same people who rate congress with a 13% approval rating are the same people who keep voting them back into power). Look what they were able to do with the Tea Party. All they knew what to do was cut-cut-cut-cut and more cuts. From Huff Post,

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Tea Party Budget Cuts
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Tea Party Heads To School
The Wall Street Journal | Jennifer Levitz | Posted 06.26.2011 | Politics
Read More: Tea Party Debt Ceiling, Tea Party Budget, Tea Party Tax Cuts, Tea Party Education Policy, Tea Party Tax Breaks, Tea Party Budget Cuts, Tea Party Education, Tea Party Spending Cuts, Tea Party Government Spending, Tea Party, Tea Party Debt, Politics News

And Ted Cruze the Tea Party darling of cuts is one of the front runners for the GOP presidency nomination - and he's a Canadian!

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@cicerone imposter,

BTW, according to US News, Ted Cruz is the front-runner for the 2016 election.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2014/10/31/tracking-the-2016-presidential-candidates

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@cicerone imposter,

The majority of the people did not think ObamaCare should be law, and I dont see where people have changed their minds. Then there is the problem that we as a society simply can not afford this new expense. We need to downsize but the elite refuse to see this, they are busy piling on the debt for new programs and refusing to reform inefficient older programs.

http://www.mygovcost.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Spending-per-Capita.png

This election will not change anything and nothing else will either, we are strapped in for the crash. I hope it happens after I die but I doubt that I get that lucky.

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There is plenty of money, if we tax the rich and cut military spending.

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@edgarblythe,

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/Deficits%20per%20person.jpg

the entire military budget is $2,500 per person.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2014USdn_16ds2n#usgs302

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@cicerone imposter,

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And Ted Cruze the Tea Party darling of cuts is one of the front runners for the GOP presidency nomination - and he's a Canadian!

I was being capricious when saying Cruz might be president of the US. Ted Cruz, even tho a Canadian by birth, has since renounced his Canadian citizenship and is now a US citizen. Be that as it may, he will never be president of these United States. He might be able to influence an election, but him personally, no way! The Republican party not only dislike this Tea Party extremist passionately, but they fear him as he's too unpredictable and unreasonably ambitious. Ted Cruz represents the darkest side of the seamy underbelly of politics.

G'nite

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Don't lose too much sleep over the tea party. The GOP and tea party is at war.

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In 2013 it had escalating conflicts with the big business wing of the GOP, which began organizing to fight back.[9] In the 2014 GOP primaries, the Tea Party's most high profile victory was the defeat of Eric Cantor, the #2 House leader who was attacked for being too close to Wall Street.[10] The most serious defeat for the Tea Party came in Mississippi, where it failed in a bitter challenge to the renomination of Senator Thad Cochran. Commentators saw a "civil war" underway inside the GOP between Tea Party elements and the business-oriented establishment.

The teabaggers may be at war with the GOP in some states, but they ARE the GOP here. Here is a headline I just read:
Tea Party Poised To Push Texas Even Further To The Right

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@hawkeye10,

hawk, There's nobody in this world that can project economic activity ten years into the future. If anyone thinks they can project economic activity for the next five years, they need to be forced into a mental institution.

There is no science that can project the economics of this world into the future years. There's too much flux in the world economies, and there's nobody who can predict political upheavals that impacts all economies.

Anyone who can predict two years into the future can be based only on guesses. As Frank calls them, "wild guesses."

Have you ever studied Economics?

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@Moment-in-Time,

Two Cruz proteges are about to become Governor and Attorney General, in Texas. Still, I agree that he could never be president.

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@Moment-in-Time,

You have it in reverse; any presidential candidate must have been born in the US. That's the reason why Obama can't be president; he was born in Kenya.

And, don't you forget that! LOL

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

Two Cruz proteges are about to become Governor and Attorney General, in Texas. Still, I agree that he could never be president.

Dont say never, a couple of years more of a broken government and a broken economy can change a lot. I promise you anyone who in 1928 wondered aloud about hitler being the supreme leader of Germany was laughed at. Five years later he was. I suspect that you put too much faith in what the elite sell you over the media about how Cruz is a bumbling nut and almost no one thinks that he is not. If The Professor had even a tenth of the connection to people that Cruz has he could have steamrolled the R's who opposed him in Congress.

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