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Does ESP exist?

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 10:14 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Anecdotal "evidence" about experiences that seemingly defy coincidence are not proof of anything.

I'm not going to gainsay edgar's belief that his experience was due to a psychic connection he had with his brother, (it may well be the case and who am I to tell him that what he feels or believes is wrong or silly?) but I don't accept it as proof of anything, any more than I do my own personal experiences for which one explanation might involve psychic ability.

In a near or actually infinite universe, there are a near or actually infinite number of possibilities. The opportunities for two events to be connected in the mind of an individual are vast.

I'm sure edgar doesn't recall each and every time he felt an urge to go and sit down, and the phone didn't ring, and nothing significant happened simultaneous to his feeling the need. We remember what has some significance for us and discard or bury the trivial.

If people wish to believe in ESP or that they have had psychic experiences, that's fine, but it is just hogwash to assert that there is overwhelming evidence or even a small body of evidence that prove these "powers" exist.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 10:23 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
So far ALL controlled ESP testing and experiments have led to conclusions that "ESP" aided choice making had no greater occurrences than those made from mere chance.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 01:50 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Anecdotal "evidence" about experiences that seemingly defy coincidence are not proof of anything.


of course they do! It is very idiotic to think they do not! Think again!
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 01:51 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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I'm one and I still haven't seen anything that can even remotely be considered overwhelming evidence, let alone any evidence.


really? there is SO MANY
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 01:54 pm
@mark noble,
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Under laboratory conditions - Each of the above-mentioned parlour tricks have been debunked.
Take a peek at James Randi on youtube and you'll see every single charlatan for exactly that.


First of all, James Randi is a full time liar. Nobody , and I say nobody, can win his contest of 1 milion dollar, because it is set up in such a way no one can ever win!

And I have seen his videos. But think a little more about it.

Really, there is plenty, and I mean plenty, of evidence under laboratory conditions. Plenty!

do some research mate!
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 02:01 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
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Really, there is plenty, and I mean plenty, of evidence under laboratory conditions. Plenty!
says the paragon of integrity and truth.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 02:10 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:

Quote:
Anecdotal "evidence" about experiences that seemingly defy coincidence are not proof of anything.


of course they do! It is very idiotic to think they do not! Think again!


So macroevolution exists because my dog came from an earth worm. I saw it happen.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 02:19 pm
@parados,
seems hes caught himself in his own tiller again.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 02:39 pm
@farmerman,
I know.

Wish it were otherwise because it would be cool.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 03:07 pm
@parados,
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So macroevolution exists because my dog came from an earth worm. I saw it happen.


nice try..again.

won't work though Wink

But besides that , the evidence for ESP is overwhelming.

Why do people say that there is no ESP? It is unbelievable.
giujohn
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 04:09 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
How much money would you take to provide "plenty, of evidence under laboratory conditions"? I would be willing to go to 5 figures. U. S.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 11:22 pm
@giujohn,
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How much money would you take to provide"plenty, of evidence under laboratory conditions"? I would be willing to go to 5 figures. U. S.


wow, ok, but are you really really really sure about this? Wink
better be!
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 11:48 pm
@giujohn,
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How much money would you take to provide "plenty, of evidence under laboratory conditions"? I would be willing to go to 5 figures. U. S.


Where do you get this high confidence from?? It is completely wrong but it must come from somewhere, right?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 02:09 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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If people wish to believe in ESP or that they have had psychic experiences, that's fine, but it is just hogwash to assert that there is overwhelming evidence or even a small body of evidence that prove these "powers" exist.


hogwash?? based on what? there IS overwhelming evidence! Plenty!
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mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 05:32 am
@Quehoniaomath,
The onus is on you to provide evidence, not I.

parados
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 07:00 am
@Quehoniaomath,
The evidence that my dog came from an earthworm is overwhelming too. I saw it.

Plus my dog often acts like an earthworm. He will lie on concrete after a heavy rain and he tries to dig his way back into the dirt quite often.
mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 07:14 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Queh
I find it astonishing that on other subjects your intellect is 'spot on' while on this subject you are akin to they who dwell in the anus of youtube.
WTF are you thinking?
Don't you think we'd all like, at least one of, the above to be genuine?
Don't you think our research into these idiocies covered enough ground?
Don't you think we've all scrutinised ALL the evidence?
Are you just view-whoring this thread?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 08:39 am
@mark noble,
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Queh
I find it astonishing that on other subjects your intellect is 'spot on' while on this subject you are akin to they who dwell in the anus of youtube.
WTF are you thinking?
Don't you think we'd all like, at least one of, the above to be genuine?
Don't you think our research into these idiocies covered enough ground?
Don't you think we've all scrutinised ALL the evidence?
Are you just view-whoring this thread?


wow! what is bothering YOU?

I only say there is more then enough evidence for ESP. Can't you handle that?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 08:40 am
@parados,
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The evidence that my dog came from an earthworm is overwhelming too. I saw it.

Plus my dog often acts like an earthworm. He will lie on concrete after a heavy rain and he tries to dig his way back into the dirt quite often.


You don't even understand what I am saying.

what else is new?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2014 08:45 am
@mark noble,
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The onus is on you to provide evidence, not I.


I didn't deny that. Wink
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