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Christmas Carol Complex Sentence

 
 
Reply Wed 14 May, 2014 11:03 pm
Hi,

This is a sentence from Charles Dickens Christmas Carol. It's a complex sentence, which should have an independent and dependent clause.

My question is where do the independent and dependent clauses begin and end.

"He went to church, and walked about the streets, and watched the people
hurrying to and fro, and patted the children on the head, and questioned
beggars, and looked down into the kitchens of houses, and up to the windows,
and found that everything could yield him pleasure."
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2014 11:45 pm
@grammarbee,
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It's a complex Question sentence, which should have Question an independent and dependent clause.

Who says ? Smile It's just a string of conjoined phrases each of which could be a sentence on its own.
Note that the sentence is considered to be an arbitrary unit by some grammarians.
grammarbee
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 12:05 am
@fresco,
It's from "The Grammar Dog guide to Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens", it's used by some high schools in the United States. That sentence along with others is in an exercise to determine whether a sentence is Simple, Compound, Complex, Compound Complex. The answer sheet states it's a complex sentence.

My issue is where does the Independent Clause begin and end.


He went to church, and walked about the streets, and watched the people
hurrying to and fro, and patted the children on the head, and questioned
beggars, and looked down into the kitchens of houses, and up to the windows,
and found that everything could yield him pleasure.

"He went to church" is an independent clause as it contains a subject and verb and is a complete thought.

"that everything could yield him pleasure" is a dependent clause as it contains a subordinate conjunction (that) and also subject (everything) and verb phrase.

BUT "He went to church, and walked about the streets, and watched the people hurrying to and fro, and patted the children on the head, and questioned beggars, and looked down into the kitchens of houses, and up to the windows, and found"

seems rather awkward and an incomplete especially how it concluded "and found"


fresco
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 01:00 am
@grammarbee,
Hmmm...
My training in linguistics makes me skeptical of prescriptive definitions of grammatical structure.
However, I suggest that the main clause is "He found" and the subordinate clause is "that everything could yield him pleasure". The rest of the sentence qualifies the word "everything".
grammarbee
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 01:17 am
@fresco,
Thanks, that's helpful. I was particularly confused with that part "and found."

Cheers Smile
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grammarbee
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 05:09 am
I think I finally understand the sentence. What escaped me before was "nesting", as I simply didn't know about it. The nested clause in this case is "that everything could yield him pleasure." It's nested within the entire independent clause, because how can an independent clause conclude with an incomplete thought "and found", and found what?

Is this correct?


Original Sentence:

He went to church, and walked about the streets, and watched the people
hurrying to and fro, and patted the children on the head, and questioned
beggars, and looked down into the kitchens of houses, and up to the windows,
and found that everything could yield him pleasure.

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