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Evolution and rape

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 09:46 pm
Didn't God create serial rapists??

Not really, at least not any more than God is responsible for other birth defects. Being a psychopath is a birth defect of sort and it involves lack of a kind of a modeling facility which the rest of us have, and that modeling facility is a relatively new kind of thing which became necessary just a few thousand years ago. Best start point for that question is Julian Jaynes "Origins of Consciousness". Involved are both an ability to model other humans and animals (empathy), and a similar ability to model sequences of events i.e. deal with ideas of causes and effects, and actions and consequences. Thus for instance, Robert Hare describes the manner in which a psychopath like SlicKKK KKKlintler will go on doing stupid **** after any of us would have thought about it a bit harder and stopped.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 10:09 am
@gungasnake,
Are you saying that God has not created every thing that is? He's got some limited liability clause for His creation or something?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 10:14 am
@gungasnake,
If you believe that God created humans, then you believe that God created psychopaths (since after all, psychopaths are humans). If there is a God, it is clear to me that She really screws up from time to time.

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 11:38 am
@Olivier5,
The obvious evidence is that God does not directly interfere with physical reality.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 12:20 pm
@gungasnake,
Who designed the physical reality that leads to serial rapists.

After all, they were made in God's image.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 12:47 pm
@gungasnake,
You can just look at the world and conclude that obviously God does not interfere?... How come?

God works in mysterious ways, they say.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 01:16 pm
@Olivier5,
What is the point of a God that doesn't interfere anyway? That would mean that the world would develop according to science (meaning evolution).

The whole anti-Evolution story is about God interfering... from causing floods to making the Sun stop in the sky to putting watches in deserts.

A God that is willing to wipe out most of the human race (along with the dinosaurs) in a single flood is certainly a God that would create psychopathic serial rapists.


JTT
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 01:20 pm
@gungasnake,
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Being a psychopath is a birth defect of sort and it involves lack of a kind of a modeling facility which the rest of us have, and that modeling facility is a relatively new kind of thing which became necessary just a few thousand years ago.


Y'all lack that "modeling facility" big time, Gunga, because y'all, in true psychopathic form, encourage and enable your US governments to commit vicious war crimes, heinous acts of terrorism, serial rapes and serial torture, among other evil acts.

It's testament to your stunning levels of hypocrisy that you have the nerve to even show your face.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 03:27 pm
@maxdancona,
I suppose the point is for creationists to have their cake and eat it. They can claim that God created the world but is not responsible for all the sh!t that happens in it...
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 05:57 pm
@Olivier5,
And evolutionists claim that there is no **** and that asserting that there is is just a lower-middle-class affectation designed to impress maidens.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 08:59 pm
@spendius,
On the contrary and as pointed by Max, science explain "****" (death, diseases, earthquakes, rape, murder and what not) much better than monotheism.

How could a benevolent God create all this ****? A Darwinian system, on the other hand, REQUIRES accidents, death and competition between species. It's a jungle out there.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 05:51 am
@Olivier5,
That's faith Olivier. There is no such thing as a benevolent God.

Darwin described. He explained nothing. The idea of species is nonsensical. As is the idea of progress.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 07:38 am
@spendius,
You don't believe in a benevolent God? Good for you. That's an idea only marginally less ridiculous than Santa Claus'.

As a matter of rule, science describes. It does not explain why things are what they are. It can't explain why where're here. But it can explain how we came about. That's already something.

Your God cannot explain why we're here either. Only Santa Claus can.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 07:54 am
@Olivier5,
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But it can explain how we came about.


That's a faith too. I shouldn't think many scientists would accept it. Apart from the ones who have an interest in accepting it. And they do make very plausible programmes I must admit. But with certain questions being put on Ignore. Staying inside the bubble carefully.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 08:00 am
@spendius,
It's not about staying in a bubble, it's knowing what the limits of the exercise is.
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spooky24
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2015 05:07 am
@gungasnake,
" Being a psychopath is a birth defect of sort"

That is ridiculous. How can anyone say that-and mean it to be taken seriously.

Our science knows so little about so many things. We are totally clueless about anything and everything around us.

That is why it is such a necessity that deities are part of the evolution and growth of man.

Our medical science has noticed that mental health issues tend to run in families-and that is all we know.


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GorDie
 
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Reply Fri 26 Jun, 2015 05:51 pm
@gungasnake,
it is by Definition rape if: she doesn't want it in her. Even if she gave permission to go in. If she wants it out and he refuses he is raping her. A women is being raped if she did not give consent, or consent to continue.
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