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Born Again Christians

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 07:58 pm
Yes, I don't see science as dispelling too much.

I hope humility and common sense might, though.

The notion of revival meetings and fervid, proselytising faith, of any ilk, horrifies me - the HUBRIS and closedness of it...brrrrr.......
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:02 pm
Just pointing out Edgar that having an IQ and/or a top quality education in the sciences does not automatically result in rejecting Christianity.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:17 pm
Never said it did. It takes accepting the findings of science to accomplish that.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:21 pm
Ah okay. I wish you could meet these people and try to tell me they don't accept the findings of science. Or you would be hard put to convince me I don't accept the findings of science for that matter.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:39 pm
Sounds as if they accept science very selectively - If it doesn't clash with faith.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:44 pm
I asked my neighbor the plumber what he knew about born again christians, he said he didn't know if his HMO covered that.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:52 pm
My HMO covers everything - The fatal flaw is, no doctors will accept it.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:55 pm
I would think the OB/GYN fees are lower for being born the second time.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 08:58 pm
ok I guess i was thinking it would be a C-section.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 09:03 pm
I think some people have touched on the truisms of why missionaries do not approach older people. They need to speak to a virgin mind that are open to the messages of religion. That's the reason why most follow their culture or parent's religion as they get older, and few every change or leave the religion of their childhood. This continues to perpetuate itself from children to grandchildren and so forth and so on. If that were not true, there would be more variety of religions in every country or fewer believers.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 09:28 pm
But there are more varieties of religions in most countries now than there have ever been. And I think more and more young people have been rejecting the faith of their parents.

As to whether missionary minded Christians go after young people more than older people, I honestly don't know. My particular denomination doesn't go after anybody.

Just out of curiosity, how many of you people who do reject religious faith were raised by athiest parents?

Added: And how many of you who do have a religious faith go to the same denomination of church or practice the same faith as your parents?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 09:33 pm
My parents were believers.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 09:34 pm
Many atheists have had ministers for fathers, as a matter of fact.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:00 pm
Mine were buddhist and christian.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:03 pm
Mine were totally indifferent to the matter of Western religion. My father "believed" in the mysticism of Vedanta, God bless his Atman.
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husker
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:04 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Many atheists have had ministers for fathers, as a matter of fact.

can you verify that fact?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:21 pm
I have come across atheist spawn of ministers throughout my life. Of course, I cannot prove most of them now. Off the top of my head, I can only name Philip Wylie, the atheist author. Darwin's father was a minister, but I don't know how Darwin truly felt about god or gods.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:24 pm
On the other hand, I am pretty sure a son of atheist M. O'Hare turned Christian.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:41 pm
I was raised sort of christian - but with no passion.

I have ministers and such in the wider family, though.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 1 May, 2004 10:44 pm
dlowan wrote:
I was raised sort of christian - but with no passion.


Trying to avoid making silly Mel Gibson comment....
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