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Wed 20 Nov, 2013 12:21 pm
How the first few moments of God were?
Imagine, you ever were alone in your home and something you did all by your self....we are talking about the omnipotent,omniscient,ever pervading, supreme power...from entity and interaction model that we can make like Codd rules, there must be some relationship between the God and the universe like at least an umbilical cord, and it means, the supreme lord must himself sacrificed to become this universe, so, this material universe in it self is God
@at kishore,
There are no scientific explanations for God, creationism and the like. I say this as a religious person, I might add.
The two are not the same. Don't try to marry them together.
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
Don't try to marry them together.
They would have some ugly children together.
@at kishore,
Did you hear about the dyslexic megalomaniac who sold his soul to Santa ?
@fresco,
Or the dyslexic sex addict, who filled his pockets with money and condoms, and headed for the nearest warehouse.
@at kishore,
Indeed Kish the pantheist agrees most wholeheartedly, the conventional dualistic notion being so rife with contradiction and paradox. Incompetently reducing it to everyday terms I might say Her interests are varied, Her motives including a curiosity as just how it all would turn out
…whereupon we can guess She was somewhat disappointed
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@at kishore,
at kishore wrote:How the first few moments of God were?
If science can explain it then it won't be "God" anymore, it'll just be a natural phenomena of some kind. The traditional definition of "God" assumes that it is Supernatural, and Science doesn't deal with the Supernatural, it only deals with explaining nature.
@at kishore,
Basically you follow his rules without any proof if his existence and you get to live with him in heaven and if you don't you get infinite torture ....
@Jensi,
Jensi wrote:Basically you follow his rules without any proof if his existence and you get to live with him in heaven and if you don't you get infinite torture ....
That about sums it up. The greatest scam in history.
@rosborne979,
Quote:If science can explain it then it won't be "God" anymore, it'll just be a natural phenomena of some kind.
But Ros what if She too is a natural phenom
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:But Ros what if She too is a natural phenom
If it's a natural phenomena, then it isn't a God. Either that, or your definition of "God" isn't the traditional one (a Supernatural entity).
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:If science can explain it then it won't be "God" anymore. . .
I would take issue with that.
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
rosborne979 wrote:If science can explain it then it won't be "God" anymore. . .
I would take issue with that.
On what grounds? I think rosborne is dead-on.
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
rosborne979 wrote:If science can explain it then it won't be "God" anymore. . .
I would take issue with that.
On what grounds? I think rosborne is dead-on.
@Lustig Andrei,
If, indeed, there is a creator, He would be the source of all that we call natural law. In the end, all things would be explained.
@neologist,
neologist wrote:If, indeed, there is a creator, He would be the source of all that we call natural law. In the end, all things would be explained.
That's a meaningless answer Neo. What you just said is synonymous with: "If indeed there is magic, it would be the source of nature. And all things would be explained by that."
Which doesn't explain anything. And beyond that it doesn't address the statement to which you took issue.
Please try again. I would be truly interested if you could really come up with a rational perspective in which a "God" could be understood by science.
@rosborne979,
Quote:I would be truly interested if you could really come up with a rational perspective in which a "God" could be understood by science.
Recent discoveries Ros that the various constants might be interdependent suggests that things are the way they are not because She made them so but because that's the way they have to be. Although I doubt Science will come to understand Her, It, completely, it will become increasingly apparent that Her existence or non- is more a semantic than "scientific" matter
"Creation" is dubious, owing to so much paradox and contradiction. Meanwhile it seem pretty safe to assume She, It, was always around in one form or another
@rosborne979,
I can't even begin to comprehend what sort of cockamamie concept of god/Santa must have been drilled into your mind while you were growing up; but
I grieve for you.
If you are unable to understand that natural law would be a necessary prerogative of a creator, I can't answer further except to point out I said
necessary, not
sufficient. That's the sum of my argument in this thread.
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