The Knockout Game

Can of ordinary hornet spray from Home Depot, five bucks or thereabouts....

Well, if Blacks do not like to see fear emanating from Whites, towards them, this is not helping matters. What might be strange is that, in the recent mayoralty election, the conservative candidate did talk about a return to the lawless '70's if the liberal candidate got elected. That liberal candidate won, and hasn't even been sworn into office to date.

The local NYC tv news did highlight recent incidents, including a 78 year old Jewish woman that was hit in a mostly NYC Jewish neighborhood. Many Black NYC neighborhoods were once white back in the '50's. If my memory serves me correctly, many whites moved out because there were many incidents of muggings, or worse, not just "white flight" due to anti-Black feelings, in my opinion. Those Jewish neighborhoods do have fairly well kept apartment buildings, not to mention very well kept private homes! When neighborhoods changed in the early '60's, many took a tremendous loss in their home sales, due to the neighborhood changing so quickly. I wonder who benefitted???

I've no idea, do you?

What are the odds that you and your family will be the victims of a serial killer?

I bet the odds are in your favor, so does this mean that you can't be bothered with serial killers, that they're nothing more than an Urban Legend designed to scare people?

Your feeble argument might have some traction if anyone was suggesting that this is an issue that requires the marshaling of the full resources of a given state or the nation, but no one is.

The criticism of World Net Daily is justified. Largely, they act as shills for popular far right wing memes. However, as Finn has shown, this particular story is not made up, nor does it appear that it is going away any time soon.

There was some of this a few years ago in Toronto, but it was mobbing, sometimes with a view to robbery, but often just because the victim was identified as affluent. The mobs only had in common that they were from poor neighborhoods, and many (perhaps most) of them were from immigrant families. It was curtailed rather rapidly by the imposition and enforcement of a curfew, which was within the authority of the mayor. There used to be curfews in the States, as i recall, they were quite common in the late 1960s. I believe i am correct in saying that the Federal courts upheld the right of municipalities and states to impose and enforce curfews. The state i lived in had a curfew for the entire state. I can't say if that would work with this problem.

How is this "balanced."

It comports with your view of the matter that this is really no big deal. Sorry, but that doesn't signify balance.

Boomerang, meet Rockhead.

Is anyone suggesting that these attacks are a daily occurrence?

Do you have the same "move along; nothing to see here" attitude when it comes to the occasional mass shootings, police brutality incidents, or white-Hispanic shooting of black youths in hoodies?

If not, why now?

Yep, it's society that's to blame.

Now, that is one of the oddest justifications I've ever seen.

Well, at least you're willing to concede that it happens.

Not to mention ridiculous and abhorrent.

I am ignoring nothing.

and I am unaware of the location of any private rooms here.

and I don't know that I have ever encountered anything that was against my religion. let alone discussed it with anyone here...

I am not upset...

the statistical relevance of the knockout game is nil.

I doubt the "gun rights" folks need any help whipping up arguments, but feel free to share mine with them.

I don't have a swimming pool...

odd is correct.

Do you want a race war? Keep up your tone of hostility towards the black race and you'll get one my friend!

Do you know that 86% of blacks feel that Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin? Well, they do! So from their perspective, we're killing them left and right, and you're surprised when the more nihilistic among them start killing us -- their mortal enemies? Now how would you look at white America if you were an ordinary black guy? The whites are literally gunning you down in the street. Not only that, but the majority of whites support your murderers walking away scott free when said murderers are taken to trial. Small surprise that those among the blacks with the least self-control have started flat out clobber people...

God Foofie ... war is over if you want it to be...

"Justification"?

You've lost me...

I'm explaining possible causes of their actions, not justifying anything.

It's cause and effect. Treat them like your mortal enemy. They will treat you like their mortal enemy. That's an "explanation".

How to lose friends and alienate people...

This is all people need to know about gunga and race relations:

http://able2know.org/topic/138570-360#post-5491708

I'm not sure why Finn, roger, and Sofia don't do the honest things, and let their true
feelings about race be known where those feelings belong, in Pamela Rosa's thread.

Post there. It's where garbage like you belongs.

That's clearly an artifact of brain-washing which, sooner or later, will have to be undone. History indicates in fact that brainwashing CAN be undone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

You are giving no solutions. What seems to be different from the usual urban problems is that even females are being targeted.

And, if you notice this is all happending in the northern states, if you include Missouri as northern.

The point is that the way this was addressed, till now, was a virtual news blackout. Now that it is making the news, people see that this is a multi-state situation where some young male Blacks seem to be exhibiting a predatory attitude to their eventual victim. And, in my opinion, the supposed jocularity captured in videos might just be for the benefit of viewers to see the lack of compassion.

Talking from a sociological/psychological standpoint, this "game" (a euphemism for predatory hunting, in my opinion) might just reflect that some male Black youth may not have what parents/grandparents, and other groups had in the past, which was the ability to feel like objects of societal scorn, yet NOT ACT OUT. Blacks always had this ability to understand that not everyone from other groups were going to appreciate them as part of the population. Same with Jews. And other groups that had been the recipients of societal contempt.

And, the supposed reason that the news media kept it under wraps was for the supposed reason that a race war should be avoided. I agree. But, as I alluded to in my original post, there is no way for a white person, male or female, to hide his/her fear when a group of young male blacks are approaching, with this awareness of the "game." Again, offer a solution. Posting adversarial postings to me means nothing in the way of a solution. And, in my own opinion, any solution will offend some Blacks, since in my opinion, not all urban Blacks will think it is a big deal, since they have endured so much violence and hate in the past.

It is really urban terrorism, since the victim is not part of the predators' respective community, and the acts are just random, as part of a hunt that is portrayed as a game.

And, so many northern whites where this is occurring do not have any guilt for the history of Black America, since their ancestors were still back in Europe when the atrocities were carried out by another demographic. The Blacks, in effect, are just scape-goating the demographic of whites that just want to live peaceably. So now, ethnic northern whites must suffer for the sins of Americans that were here earlier, or lived in a different part of the country?

But, let's not make sweeping accusations that anyone wants a race war. I think what many white people want is just civilized behavior, and learning that alienation from the majority of the population is really counter-productive.

Well they would say that wouldn't they..
Fact is, Z found himself in the situation below and simply had to defend himself..

All this reminds me of the 90s fear of the "super-predator". Anyone remember that?

I'll wager that you're a lot more likely to get crashed into by an idiot drunk driver than pounded in the head by a band of idiot teenagers.

Does that mean that we should ignore the (small) threat that something like this might happen?

No.

Does that make it okay to spread fear about black teenagers?

No.

I'm perfectly fine with local news stories staying local.

This is fascinating as a sociological experiment.
A fact is opened for discussion. People who are arguably accepted as conservatives made mild comments of acceptance of the fact and shared information. Very few of the overwhelming majority of people who espouse primarily liberal views even commented, preferring to ignore the fact. The majority of commenting liberals attacked the messenger.

Set, you are so impressive to me. I know your racial standards, but you still approached this topic with reason and balance; the only one from your political spectrum.

When I first read about this phenomena, I was horrified about the violence. I read three or so articles before the racial aspect was revealed. No matter what the race of attackers or victims, I would be seriously concerned about this trend. The racial aspect became MORE primary to the story when I saw that a reliable pattern was established, but had been intentionally withheld by editors.

If you became angry or suspicious due to me sharing this story, you should ask yourself why. It is definitely your problem. You will have to live with it. Meanwhile, I hope you don't get waylaid.

I heard an interview last night on a.m. local radio, of an author that wrote a book about this apparent situation, the author's name is Colin Flaherty. The book is easily found by Googling his name. Needless to say, his name is not in the local library online catalog.

The author admitted that one cannot read the mind of any perpetrator of these acts.

The fact is that gangs of youth, bent on violence, have existed going back to the 19th century. And, these gangs were usually based on one or two ethnic groups. So, the fact that this is being perpetrated by an ethnic group that correlates to one demographic should not be surprising. What is surprising is that in the 21st century, with so much of the population being offered opportunity, for those that want it, it seems a little late for such behavior, in my opinion.

By the way, the book supposedly chronicles how violence is so widespread, and seems to have even been in the South, which I originally thought it had not. Basically, I believe the author's premise is that one has to "connect the dots" of local news to see that a pattern emerged.

Back in the day of the peacetime draft, I remember it being said that many a delinquent youth was "straightened out" in the Army. In fact, I always heard that some judges offered a defendant youth the choice of the Army or jail? Well, without a draft, it might just be a new industry for the country to have some sort of correctional programs, without incarceration, for young people that have drifted outside of society's standards. At least this would be a reason that many conservatives might accept as a reason for taxing the 1%?