Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

If two people are having an arugment; one side saying that 2+2=4 and the other side saying 2+2=6, without fail a third person will come on the scene, state that obviously 2+2=5, and call the original two people idiots.

Apisa only makes sense if there is something illogical or morally reprehensible about guessing. If guessing is a weakness.

"I can't get out of bed my dear (it is 3 o'clock in the afternoon) because I don't know whether it is in my interest to do so or not. I would have to guess and, as I have often told you, guessing is a weakness and I'm a strong person."

"But dahling, you don't know whether it is in your interest to stay in bed or not. You're having to guess. Perhaps you might be better if you half got out of bed but before you put your socks on it might be as well to check there is no poisonous spiders got into one of them, or even both, during the night. We don't want you taking any unnecessary risks when you have no evidence one way or the other."

"What is the bucket of water for my dear".

It is to get you out of bed if reasoning logic fails.

How did it happen ... that you have no idea. You are the one that 'has gone waaay farther with real scientific evidence'.
May I tell you something. Cherry picking of evidences from here and there is nothing ... and it doesn't matter whether they are 'real scientific' or surreal & unscientific.
Either you have the model of the whole biosphere for the period concerned and have some plausible explanation of how the CO2 has been reduced ... and present it here in explicit form to see whether it is 'natural' or deed of an intelligent design OR you just confess that you 'have no idea' of how that has happened and stop explaining to the population on the Net that this process is 'natural' and nothing special & that the cyanobacteria are the key of all keys. Without a mechanism of bio-control your cyanobacteria may some day invade the galaxy.

Inorganic compounds are those that lack carbon and hydrogen atoms.
The Big Bang didn't have at its disposal even the chemical elements, so perhaps you should start building the aminoacids from the Higg's boson.

Organic compounds form on their own. This is why what you said about organic compounds doesn't make any sense.

This is what Heralld is saying


Sounds like hes doing a meltdown. I have no idea where the hell hes coming from. I believe Im seeing his entire thoughts being derived from "Dr Dino"

He's obsessed with the reduction in CO2 in the atmosphere, and absolutely and resolutely ignores the effects of photosynthesis, especially after plant colonized the land about 450 mybp. He recently stated that when any source puts CO2 into the atmosphere, it stays there. He's really working without a net.

Im not going to start a remedial paleontology course for someone who has no idea of what he speaks(OR as I suspect, gets all his "science" from the ICS)

The presence and increase (and decrease of all the atmospheric gases have nothing to do with "GODS" or Easter Bunnies or Flying Spaghetti Monsters.)(How do I know this??)
Mostly from hanging around you guys who try to argue in the contrary.

Cyanobacteria, aquatic algae and other plants. LAnd dominant algae, gymnosperms and (after the Triassic) angiosp[erms. Sulphitic and Nitrous gases hav e upwardly reabounded since the end of the Permian and hve periodically caused SULPHATE AND NITRATE levels to expands and the bulk drop in O2 had sent a number of species into extinction (almost 92% of all species in the late PErmian through Triassic)


Are you 14 years old? you don't seem to have a grasp of anything outside of some fixation on Intelligent Design. To which, by the way you hadn't given any of your own evidence all you've done is keep repeating one phrase that made no sense even the first time.

Id say that you should listen to your science teacher more and your Evangelical Church guys less

As for "cherry picking" I usually start really slow with the EVangelicals who wish to learn somepaleo atmospherics. Ill go even slower with you unless you re older than 14 then I believe you should be concentrating on comprehension.

Id suggest reading some Lynn MArgulis and her take on how the early atmosphere and later changed as a function of the erths processes and biology. Shes the mother of
Gaia" (which is mostly bullshit but the "cyclic conditions " on the plnet are well evidenced.

Ya think hes seriously pumping **** like that out?. I thought he just hd a problem with my grphs bulk percentage compositions of atmospheric gases.
Hmm, maybe he IS reading Dr Dino.

I pointed out that geological sources of CO2 had dropped to negligible levels beginning more than half a billion years ago. It was just one part of a post in which i pointed out many reasons for a drop in CO2. He specifically replied that once CO2 goes into the atmosphere "it stays there." That was his wording. I suspect he's got some mumbo-jumbo, imaginary friend scenario in mind which he wants to peddle, but i have zero interest in his fantasy life. I doubt is he's ever heard of or read about the Phanerozoic Eon, much less understood the profound effect on the atmosphere.

Many folks , more saavy than I, have proposed the "dwindling Panthalasian sea" theory where , when land masses began to cyclically break and reassemble after the 6 major worldwide orogenies. What happened , according to some (lthough this is only "modeled' and not tested in a real world) there were forming declinines in sea areas and the moving and assembling landmasses surrounded by shallow seas, enabled the seas to act as huge "Sinks" for CO2 , SALT, manganese and iron. That's why there are so many huge salt beds and domes and abiogenic limestones from the Post Permin period because shallow seas concentrated salts and as stuff like coral and the sea itself just sucked up gases and since corralines were O2 breathing animals the atm gas balances were diddled with for 250 my more, with declining oxygen AND CO2.

I like this model approach, its elegant, its simple, and its probably dead wrong.

BUTT--Nobody need look for gods under their pillows

You reminded me of Bella Dea. (Do you remember her?) Her great line was: "I found Jesus! He was behind the sofa the whole time."

I know the line but I don't think Ive ever herd of Bella Dea (It is a song by Chuck Mangione). No wait, that was Bellavia.
Now I gotta find my copy of Children of Sanchez(IMHO) Mangiones BEST EVER record

There can only be one point to all that drivel fm and it is you strutting your stuff.

When I suggested shallow seas to explain a world wide flood you scoffed at the idea.

except the world wasn't "Flooded" dipshit, continents float.
"They all float down here"

I think I'll be using that as a sig-line if you don't mind -- with the typos fixed of course. I haven't been reading this thread, so I have no idea to whom you're referring, but it applies to so many other situations in life.

It's not original (except for the typos of course). So you are welcome to use it.

Not by a long shot. I agree.

I am quite surprised how few people seem to notice how these eminent gentlemen of learning and perspicacity are so eager to dash for their boltholes at the merest scent of a dipshit.

Setanta and yourself, fm, are a joke from any intellectual or scientific standpoint. That some people take you seriously ought to be a matter of grave concern for the authorities because you open up the possibility that there might be millions more like you and each and every one of them entitled to vote.

It's terrifying really to anybody who is just embarking upon the journey through life.

Thank you fm. That's very kind of you.