Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@Romeo Fabulini,

I'm surprised you swallowed that Romeo.

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@Setanta,

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I missed that inititally, because i don't read post by Spurious, nor posts which quote it. That's a real knee-slapper--this clown thinks every idea is "designed." Who does he allege "designed" so-called atheism . . . SATAN ? ! ? ! ?

How does Setanta figure that out if he doesn't read my posts?

Atheism is designed by dicks and the industries exploiting their weakness.

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@spendius,

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Atheism is designed by dicks and the industries exploiting their weakness.

I'm quite disappointed by your indulging is such demagogy, Spendi.

There's no design in atheism, as you know. But you prefer saying otherwise, probably to bother your opponents and pat christians on the back.

Dicks are incapable of designing something, as is seen in the vast masses of religious followers.

What to say about the church industries? Who are they exploiting?

Atheists represent 3 to 10 % of the general population. Which means that the other 90% are just gullible masses under the influence of different churches.

That your view of humankind is, ipso-facto, a very misanthrope one, it is plain to see.

You would do well at the vicarage party..

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@Herald,

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The ability to collect a database without contradictions and to make logical inferences over verified & validated data, and to verify afterwords the inferences is not 'always knowing'. It is often having the possibility to get knowing ... which is very different.

When have you made ANY "logical inferences"? ALL of your posts have been entirely "logic-free" since you started your journey here.
What "evidence" do you think you even own or have adopted? You've been trying (ineffectually) to merely question my , and others logical and evidence based posts. You've not done a really good job at that either.

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study your 'rocks of the right type', your cross- scientific misunderstanding about the functional difference between organic tissue & chemical polymers

That's because you are quite dim. You are unable to understand the significance of "rocks of the right age and type" (I did say age also, you redacted in your ignorance).
Finding evidence of INTERMEDIATE LIFE FORMS in the sequence of time in the fossil record gos very far to smack your "ID" concept. expecially when evolutionary changes seem to go at right angles during and after earth's various cataclysms.

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and your gaps in math from the grammar school

AS I said before, welcome your "self proclaimed expertise" in math (still wondering what your point is.

Your submittals are getting more and more petulant , I don't know whether you realize that. You've become like spendi's little nephew, presenting your rambling, run -on sentences with no points of logic.

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@timur,

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I'm quite disappointed by your indulging is such demagogy, Spendi.

I'm sorry to hear that tim.

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There's no design in atheism, as you know.

Like God/s atheism is a product of mind and is thus designed. And it is fit for the purpose it is designed for which is to set aside moral discipline which is itself very carefully designed to try to produce an orderly and successful society despite the odds being heavily weighted against it.

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But you prefer saying otherwise, probably to bother your opponents and pat christians on the back.

I'm not trying to bother anybody. It is the facts of life that bother them. I think Christianity deserves a pat on the back, and more, for taking a mass of cthonic humans and turning them into what they have been turned into. I feel very fortunate to have been born into a Christian society.

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Dicks are incapable of designing something, as is seen in the vast masses of religious followers.

I don't see anything else capable of designing anything. If you do I would be grateful if you explained it. Where is the atheist who will plausibly describe an atheist society? And they have been asked to often enough. Anybody can knock things down if there is no need to build anything in its place. Huxley tried to describe a secular society but it was not plausible and he knew it. His probably lesbian wife arranged his many assignations with other women.

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What to say about the church industries? Who are they exploiting?

The population of course but for its own good. Like diet puritans do.

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Atheists represent 3 to 10 % of the general population.

Which is quite amazing considering the temptations atheism can offer.

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Which means that the other 90% are just gullible masses under the influence of different churches.

Your use 0f "gullible" betrays your unscientific approach. As it does all atheists who use such pejoratives as assertions.

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That your view of humankind is, ipso-facto, a very misanthrope one, it is plain to see.

I'm not prepared to have myself on.

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You would do well at the vicarage party..

I have been present at such events. One might meet refined ladies there whose husbands prefer playing golf with their mates rather than attending to their needs.

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@farmerman,

Why are not all life forms intermediates?

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I could go on and on about your replies to my posts.

But my intent is not to persuade you or anybody else if my atheistic view of the world is well founded or not.

So, I'll just ask you, about this quote:

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One might meet refined ladies there whose husbands prefer playing golf with their mates rather than attending to their needs.

Weren't you acting like a atheist?

Or were you just offering them the chaste warmth of your friendship?

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@timur,

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Weren't you acting like a atheist?

Or were you just offering them the chaste warmth of your friendship?

Oh no. Nothing so crass. I was a therapist.

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@timur,

I assume you know that refined ladies shrivel and languish when they are taken for granted and their needs left unattended.

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@spendius,

Was your therapy successful?

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@timur,

Beyond my expectations.

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@spendius,

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Why are not all life forms intermediates?

Ive said that all along. So you should argue with gunga who believes s otherwise.

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@farmerman,

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ALL of your posts have been entirely "logic-free" since you started your journey here.

How did you come to know that you can recognize the logic when you stumble over it. As far as I remember you called the General Relativity Theory of Einstein meaningless or s.th. ... not to mention that you couldn't even recognize to whom and what it actually is.

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You've been trying (ineffectually) to merely question my , and others logical and evidence based posts.

You are not presenting any evidences. You are making only personal assessments and present your personal perceptions and misunderstandings of the things as truth of the last resort, like for example this one: 'You've not done a really good job at that either'. What evidences and logic you present here for example?

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You are unable to understand the significance of "rocks of the right age and type"

What I understood is maybe more than enough. This is not simply instructions ... how to find the appropriate places to look for fossils. This is a way of thinking, an attitude to the world. Today people like you are classifying the rocks as 'of the right type' ... and of the wrong type, tomorrow you will start talking about sciences of the right type and sciences of the wrong type, and the day after tomorrow you may talk about people of the right type ... and of the right latitude, and people that are on the wrong side of the globe.
This is mania for assessment and mania for judgment. It is not simply classification of rocks ... it is mania to pronounce what is wrong and what is right, who has 'logical evidences' (no matter how superficial he may be ... so long he is an ally), and who is 'logic-free', no matter whether you understand what it means or not (if it means anything at all).

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@farmerman,

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Ive said that all along.

What's the big deal. It's obvious. I often pass "intermediate life forms" in the street. One of them can put a meat and potato pie in a paper bag and charge me £1.40 for it.

I see our monkey heritage wherever I look.

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@spendius,

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I see our monkey heritage wherever I look.

I second that. Evolution is even slower than paleontologists say it is. Smile

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@Herald,

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As far as I remember you called the General Relativity Theory of Einstein meaningless or s.th. ... not to mention that you couldn't even recognize to whom and what it actually is

You have me confused with your high school science teacher.

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You are not presenting any evidences

Is "evidences" even a noun? ..
Never mind. Ive presented you countless examples of evidence from the science literature and Ive given you a few texts you can consult .
You've said NOTHING but keeerap.

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Today people like you are classifying the rocks as 'of the right type' ... and of the wrong type, tomorrow you will start talking about sciences of the right type and sciences of the wrong type, and the day after tomorrow you may talk about people of the right type ... and of the right latitude, and people that are on the wrong side of the globe.
This is mania for assessment and mania for judgment. It is not simply classification of rocks ... it is mania to pronounce what is wrong and what is right,

The phrase "Breathless inanity" describes most all of your posts that I should probably just admit that, indeed, you are uneducable and be done with you. But you do come up with some funny **** (im sure you think you are making sense )but, in the words of your last sentence, which sums up much of your writing;

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who is 'logic-free', no matter whether you understand what it means or not (if it means anything at all).

Im sorta going out on a limb here but Ill agree that most of your **** hardly means anything at all.

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@Herald,

Don't you think Herald that Sir John Herschel's phrase--"the law of higgledy-piggledy" is better than "Casino"?

There is some modicum of order in a casino.

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@farmerman,

Is it possible, fm, to dismiss intelligent design, in some form or other, without reducing all the laws of action and human thought to the lowest and most sordid of motives?

Without having yourself on I mean.

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@spendius,

Im sure there are many people who "Believe" with the purist intent that ID is a "robust scientific theory". However Those arent the apologist types who correspond herein. The people I see on A2k, think nothing f lying and "quote mining" or misrepresenting others. I always suspect such folks of arguing from the lowest strata of motives.

Ive been scientifically accurate and hve presented theory and evidence from actual published conclusion, when such data is denied merely for the purpose of gainsay, (that is without any compelling counter theory), well...

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@farmerman,

Is it possible, fm, to dismiss intelligent design, in some form or other, without reducing all the laws of action and human thought to the lowest and most sordid of motives?

Without having yourself on I mean.

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