Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

You people teach children to believe without evidence and deny evidence that's presented to you. Dangerous work, that...

I don't know what you are teaching, but I personally am not teaching anybody to anything.
... and when presenting as an alien on the net what exactly are you teaching the children (for ten trillion trillions are reading your nonsense) - what are you teaching: that in the capacity of being an alien-in-chief you will take care of the society (of which you are obviously not a part)?

FBM wrote:

You people teach children to believe without evidence

All people believe - that is how the knowledge acquisition works. All people believe with or without evidence, like for example some people may believe in the Big Bang 'theory' even without understanding it ... just on credentials ... and that the credentials could be fake -who cares. The question is how we believe and in what. How can I believe for example to a person who poisons one-by-one the threads with or without any reason? How can I believe to a person, who claims to be an alien and claims that he/she has no beliefs (actually hiding the personal beliefs from the wide public)? Every average person can find in what you believe without any problems, but I personally don't care at all. To me it is obvious.
How did you come to know that the Big Bang is safe - that the misrepresentation of the facts and non-believing in morality is safe to society? How did you come to know that overexposing the believe in money and power is safe to the person himself ... and to the society ... moreover that in the capacity of an alien you cannot be a member of that society in the first place, let alone to represent it and to speak on its behalf?

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

... and when presenting as an alien on the net what exactly are you teaching the children (for ten trillion trillions are reading your nonsense) - what are you teaching...

When I'm presenting your deluded, invisible, teleporting 45%/30%/25% (that you then deny) magical, all-powerful alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps claptrap of a belief and then dismantling it, I'm teaching you the power of logical skepticism over wingnut, fallacious, credulous bullshit. Laughing

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All people believe -

You keep making the same claim, but have done nothing to support it. Strawmen fallacies and ad homs don't help. Try again.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

When I'm presenting your deluded, invisible, teleporting 45%/30%/25%

You are not presenting this on a private channel - you are publishing this on the public net that is accessible to everyone. Everyone could read your nonsense - including your boss, your shrink, your wife and your grandchildren.

FBM wrote:

You keep making the same claim

I am not making 'the same claim'. I made it once, and you republished it 300 times by misinterpreting it and by distorting it to infinity. ... and you passed all the event horizons when you started presenting yourself as an alien and started contaminating the blogs of the other people as well.

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@Herald,

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I am not making 'the same claim'.

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Herp-da-derp. About me and everybody having to have beliefs.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Herp-da-derp. About me and everybody having to have beliefs.

You are not the case 'to have beliefs', you are already having them. Thus for example you believe in the infinite arrogance as a way of living. You firmly believe that instead of confessing that you are wrong, when that becomes more than evident, you may just play the theatre with the aliens in order to cover in what you actually believe, etc.

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@Herald,

OK, so you got nothing again. Not surprised.

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List of scientists who became creationists after studying the evidence: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_became_creationists_after_studying_the_evidence

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

OK, so you got nothing again. Not surprised.

What do you expect to have: you believe (according to your own words) 0% in God & 0% in the Big Bang? What pieces of evidence could be presented to a person, who believes 0% in the social role of Religion & 0% in the driving power of Science?

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@Herald,

You made the claim that "everybody" must believe something. Present some evidence for that claim. Otherwise, you're just pulling crap out of your ass again.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

You made the claim that "everybody" must believe something.

     No, the claim was that everybody believes in something, without must
     Why do you believe that you can view the other people as idiots ... to infinity, that you can twist their words and make your own top design straw-men out of everything? Do you know what I am thinking on the issue - you simply don't have any arguments and are trying to cover the gaps in your knowledge by the aliens-of-the-gaps.
     ... and why should I present any evidence about your beliefs. By default you should have enough scientific integrity to present your beliefs by yourself - at a truth level for the purposes of the discussion, as you are so interested in discussing beliefs here ... for this thread is not about beliefs and disbeliefs ... but so and so you have poisoned it already by aliens, straw-men and gaps of any kind.

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@Herald,

*cough*

Herald wrote:

...You cannot function as a person in society without having any beliefs...

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
You made the claim that "everybody" must believe something.
     No, the claim was that everybody believes in something, without must
     Why do you believe that you can view the other people as idiots ... to infinity, that you can twist their words and make your own top design straw-men out of everything? Do you know what I am thinking on the issue - you simply don't have any arguments and are trying to cover the gaps in your knowledge by the aliens-of-the-gaps.
     ... and why should I present any evidence about your beliefs. By default you should have enough scientific integrity to present your beliefs by yourself - at a truth level for the purposes of the discussion, as you are so interested in discussing beliefs here ... for this thread is not about beliefs and disbeliefs ... but so and so you have poisoned it already by aliens, straw-men and gaps of any kind.

The person making the claim bears the burden of evidence. I claim that I don't have beliefs, you claim that I do. I posted a complete list of my beliefs, and it was an empty set. If you are going to support your claim that I have beliefs, the ball's in your court to back up that claim with evidence. Otherwise, you're just posting wild-ass guesses and empty rhetoric again.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

The person making the claim bears the burden of evidence.

Absolutely ... and in the capacity of making the claim of the Gaps, you are the one, who is supposed to specify all the Gaps ... 'up to the eighteenth digit after the decimal point'.

FBM wrote:

I claim that I don't have beliefs

... and you are absolute liar. First, you believe that you have the right to poison any thread, with or without reason, which is belief in hoologanism. Second you believe that by quoting at random some status quo you will become somehow at a higher level ... without even understanding what you are doing, BTW.

FBM wrote:

... you claim that I do.

No, I don't claim that. You have beliefs ... with or without my claims. You believe in Money & Power ... with or without my claims. You believe in the infinite arrogance ... with or without my claims. You believe in the infinite parasitism of poisoning the other people's threads on the forum for the sake of your private-personal & super-selfish problems ... with or without my claims.

FBM wrote:

I posted a complete list of my beliefs, and it was an empty set.

Let me tell you something - if you don't believe in your cherishing right to poison any thread that you find appropriate, you simply would not do that. Do you need some subtitles to that.

FBM wrote:

If you are going to support your claim that I have beliefs

You have beliefs, but who am I to explain your beliefs. If you have at least a drop of scientific integrity left (for so and so you are odds with the morality), you should have the valour to specify them personally. In any case scenario I am not you baby-sitter. Anyway.

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

...

FBM wrote:
... you claim that I do.
No, I don't claim that. You have beliefs ...

I'm just gonna let that hang there...

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

*cough*

Herald wrote:

...You cannot function as a person in society without having any beliefs...

You are correct, Herald is wrong here.

I do not do "believing" either.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

You are correct, Herald is wrong here. I do not do "believing" either.

     Franky, Franky, Franky, you believe in the boldface, which is more than obvious from all your posts. You believe that anything you write in boldface, with or without semantics, somehow becomes more meaningful.
     Now what - you both are going to demolish the belief revision theory of the predicate logic or perhaps you will wipe out the whole science of artificial intelligence.
     I wished I had your self-conceitedness and egotism ... as they are, without beliefs and without any collateral.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

I'm just gonna let that hang there ...

     Dude, you are specialising in absolute parasitism on the net. Why don't you publish the other part of the sentence as well.
     Anything taken in part and out of the context could be misrepresented to infinity ... anything.
     Example: 'Let us not wallow in the valley of despair ...' - M.L.K.
     When you skip only one of the words, the whole sentence may become with totally different semantics.
Let us [] wallow in the valley of despair.
     From where automatically follows that the very moment you change anything in any quote, no matter whether changing the size of the font, or skipping the last part of the sentence, or taking it out of the context - this is not that quote any more. It becomes your personally top-designed straw-man, as it actually is.

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@Herald,

I repeat: If you don't want to be ridiculed, stop posting ridiculous statements. You contradict yourself and try to dodge responsibility for it. You denied making a claim by making the claim.

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FBM wrote:
... you claim that I do.
No, I don't claim that. You have beliefs ... with or without my claims. You believe in...

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
You are correct, Herald is wrong here. I do not do "believing" either.
Franky, Franky, Franky, you believe in the boldface, which is more than obvious from all your posts.

I do not "believe" in bold face...I prefer to use it.

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You believe that anything you write in boldface, with or without semantics, somehow becomes more meaningful.

I use bold face for a reason which has nothing to do with making things more meaningful. It has nothing to do with "belief." I do not do "believing."

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Now what - you both are going to demolish the belief revision theory of the predicate logic or perhaps you will wipe out the whole science of artificial intelligence.
I wished I had your self-conceitedness and egotism ... as they are, without beliefs and without any collateral.

There were so many English words there, I am sure you were trying to say something meaningful, Helrald.

You did not succeed.

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