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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 12:10 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Where the **** did you get the idea that Pyrrhonism has anything whatsoever to do with money and power?
     From the evidence you provided on this thread. You are the evidence of all that.
     In the Wiki we read: '... a Pyrrhonist is a follower of the School of Skepticism'. What does that mean? It means that a Phyrrhonist does not believe in morality - the absolute morality is uncertain and impossible to be achieved and he truly believes that it does not worth the efforts.
      Then we have: 'a Pyrrhonist tries to make the argument on both sides as strong as possible'. Take for example your unprincipled disbelief in God and the Big Bang - you don't believe in both and assign to them both 0% belief by the belief revision process of assessment. So we have 0% of FBM believing in God; and 0% of FBM believing in the Big Bang 'theory'/Science in general. Well, I cannot deny that both are 'equally strong', but they are still absolute zeros. Where is the rest 100% of belief going?
     Further in have: '... when the Pyrrhonists are obsessed by the mania to empirism as a basis for asserting knowledge'. What does that mean? It means that a Purrhonist is able to believe to any genuinely random and stochastic reference on the net just because it is 'empirical evidence' - it has been published somewhere on the net at random, and in connection with some other totally random event and thus has become somehow and out of nowhere tangible.
     On the grounds whereof we have: 0% belief in God; 0% belief in Science; 0% belief in Morality - from where automatically follows that a Phyrrhonist believes only in tangible 'empirical evidence' - like money and power, and then tries to make 'the argument on both sides as strong as possible', from where we have: Money + Power = 100% belief; Money/Power = MAX; we solve the equation, find the derivatives and thus we have 50% belief in Money, and fifty 50% belief in Power. ... & the first association to that is the Church of Satan.
     Besides that your infinite aggression and willingness to harm the people when you personally are unable to organise your own thread also points towards the Church of Satan. Rien ne va plus and Game over.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 12:17 am
@Herald,
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a Purrhonist [sic] is able to believe to [sic]


Major stochastic failure in your stochastic chain of stochastic psychobabble there, stochastic homer. Check the stochastic reference material stochastically again. A Pyrrhonist suspends judgement: epoche. If you missed that point, you didn't even try.
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 01:26 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
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a Purrhonist [sic] is able to believe to [sic]
     It is amazing how a Pyrrhonist can notice a spelling error in 1 GB text and skip the semantics of the whole plain text in-between ... like for example that he is absolutely able to believe in anything else except for money and power.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 01:42 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
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a Purrhonist [sic] is able to believe to [sic]
     It is amazing how a Pyrrhonist can notice a spelling error in 1 GB text and skip the semantics of the whole plain text in-between ... like for example that he is absolutely able to believe in anything else except for money and power.


If you think a Pyrrhonist is willing to believe in anything, you've missed the boat by a wide margin. I'm going to give you a fair warning, I suppose. I wrote my M.A. thesis on Pyrrhonism. Consider whether or not you really want to challenge me on this...
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 03:18 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
If you think a Pyrrhonist is willing to believe in anything, you've missed the boat by a wide margin.
     There is no such thing as a person not believing in anything - can you give an example of that?
FBM wrote:
I'm going to give you a fair warning, I suppose. I wrote my M.A. thesis on Pyrrhonism.
     I don't believe in the Church of Pyrrhonism, so you can threaten me as much as you wish. What are you going to do, BTW - you are going to outcommunicate me from the Church of Pyrrhonism, or what?
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 03:34 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
If you think a Pyrrhonist is willing to believe in anything, you've missed the boat by a wide margin.
     There is no such thing as a person not believing in anything - can you give an example of that?


Me and Frank (according to him).

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FBM wrote:
I'm going to give you a fair warning, I suppose. I wrote my M.A. thesis on Pyrrhonism.
     I don't believe in the Church of Pyrrhonism, so you can threaten me as much as you wish. What are you going to do, BTW - you are going to outcommunicate me from the Church of Pyrrhonism, or what?


I'm going to expose your abject ignorance of Pyrrhonism and your pseudo-intellectual posturing. This is going to be fun...
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 03:38 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Me and Frank (according to him).
     You are both lying - actually I don't know who Franc is ... I don't want to know, but you personally believe in money and power as a minimum, and also that if you misrepresent and misinterpret to infinity the words of the other people you will acquire somehow, out of nowhere and out of nothing some infinite competitive advantage ... and this is called disintegrity in the morality, for you are not applying the same approach to Franc and to yourself, for example. You are applying double standards as you find appropriate and this purely formally is called misrepresentation of the world.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 03:47 am
@Herald,
Prove that I believe in something and prove what it is. Prove it. Like you proved that bullshit about the alien/ILF/god-thingy. Laughing
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 06:17 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Prove that I believe in something and prove what it is.
     You believe in the misinterpretation and the misrepresentation to infinity, so far that suits you. You believe in the top design and in the serial replication of straw-men to infinity ... and their resurrection out of the ashes, actually out of nothing and out of nowhere.
     As the misrepresentation of the world is your idol, most probably you believe in the lies & cheating as means of success in life. You have no imagination and you cannot accept any people who may have anything of the kind - so you believe in the infinite dullness as the formula of success in life ... expressed in pumping muscles, and stuffing with steroids to infinity.
     You are able to repeat something that has been told to you that you will never have the answer to, especially in the way you imagine it - hence you believe in the racketeering & the extortion as a way of living.
     Most probably you are very fond of money and power, and don't believe that any knowledge will be of any good to you, so far you succeed in trying the money and the power. Most probably you have some forged CV, that secures you some cloudless existence.
     You don't believe that you should deal with solving the problems of the people around you - as you are standing above the things and your ego is in the Centre of the Universe ... and everything else is turning around it, and expanding with acceleration, and so on and so forth.
     The scientific integrity means nothing to you - it is just words that you can misrepresent ... if you are in a mood.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 06:24 am
@Herald,
I don't see anything there but bold claims. You haven't proved that I believe anything. Please try again.
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 09:49 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I don't see anything there but bold claims. You haven't proved that I believe anything. Please try again.
     Actually I don't care in what you believe, but if you are hiding so thoroughly your own beliefs, you have no right to ask me about my beliefs and to comment them by misinterpretation and misrepresentation, and to request any justifications on that.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 09:58 am
@Herald,
It's funny how you never apply your requirements of others to yourself Herald.

Your refusal to answer questions about your beliefs would point to your hiding them. And yet you seem to ask a lot of questions about others.
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 10:05 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
It's funny how you never apply your requirements of others to yourself Herald.
     What about your beliefs: How much % do you believe A. in God; B. in Science; C. in Morality; D. in Money; E. in Power; F. in something else, where A+B+C+D+E+F should equal 100%
parados wrote:
Your refusal to answer questions about your beliefs would point to your hiding them.
     I am not hiding anything. I have published some interpretation of them (that I neither deny nor confirm that it is the real case), and your buddy cannot stop quoting them ... for over 250 pages on end.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 10:56 am
@Herald,
Because you give yourself a much lower standard than you hold anyone else's beliefs to you really don't have much standing to hold anyone else to the higher standard.

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What about your beliefs: How much % do you believe A. in God; B. in Science; C. in Morality; D. in Money; E. in Power; F. in something else, where A+B+C+D+E+F should equal 100%
That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen. They don't need to add up to 100% under any circumstances. If you believe in God 100% then you would be required to believe that God has no power since you can't believe in power under your idiotic 100% scenario. You would also be forced to admit that God has no morality if you believe in him 100%. This is just another example of you using fallacies. This would be a twisted version of the false dichotomy.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 12:33 pm
Parados nailed it. That is absolutely the dumbest attempt at quantification I have ever seen. Dumbest 100%. Since Herald's criteria aren't mutually exclusive, or even comparable to each other, there is no reason to think they'd total 100%. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Except that's 300%.
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FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:32 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
I don't see anything there but bold claims. You haven't proved that I believe anything. Please try again.
     Actually I don't care in what you believe, but if you are hiding so thoroughly your own beliefs, you have no right to ask me about my beliefs and to comment them by misinterpretation and misrepresentation, and to request any justifications on that.


I'm wondering if you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between hiding one's beliefs and not having any. Regardless, you fail yet again. You started this thread, trying to push your ridiculous creationist fantasies, live with the well-deserved ridicule, wingnut. 45% belief in this, 30% belief in something contradictory, 25% belief in something that you subsequently deny. Srsly. You need help. Like a Logic 101 class and some Prozac.
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 08:35 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I'm wondering if you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between hiding one's beliefs and not having any.
     A person has a lot of beliefs ... and you as well - unless you are an alien. Everybody has beliefs. The belief revision system is part of the metrics for knowledge acquisition. If you don't have any beliefs you would not be able to acquire any knowledge at all - no matter whether genuine authentic or totally random mumbo-jumbo.
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 08:42 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
You started this thread, trying to push your ridiculous creationist fantasies.
     This is not true ... that I have started the thread 'to push my ridiculous creationist fantasies'. The thread was opened to verify whether the assumptions of the Big Bang and/or God theories are knowable or unknowable, and to arrange the knowledge about ourselves and the Universe ... which is unfortunately in absolute bulk at present.
     You are the one placing references to the aliens as 'keywords' and the only idea of that is to poison the thread ... and nothing else. The only question that is remaining is whether you are doing that for fun, or you have been paid for that by the fossil fuel mafia or the modern money mechanics top designers, or by some other scientific disintegrity apologists.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 08:49 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
I'm wondering if you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between hiding one's beliefs and not having any.
     A person has a lot of beliefs ... and you as well - unless you are an alien. Everybody has beliefs. The belief revision system is part of the metrics for knowledge acquisition. If you don't have any beliefs you would not be able to acquire any knowledge at all - no matter whether genuine authentic or totally random mumbo-jumbo.


I'm wondering if you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between knowledge and belief. You claim "Everybody has beliefs." Prove it, then.
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FBM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Apr, 2015 08:52 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
You started this thread, trying to push your ridiculous creationist fantasies.
     This is not true ... that I have started the thread 'to push my ridiculous creationist fantasies'. The thread was opened to verify whether the assumptions of the Big Bang and/or God theories are knowable or unknowable, and to arrange the knowledge about ourselves and the Universe ... which is unfortunately in absolute bulk at present.
     You are the one placing references to the aliens as 'keywords' and the only idea of that is to poison the thread ... and nothing else. The only question that is remaining is whether you are doing that for fun, or you have been paid for that by the fossil fuel mafia or the modern money mechanics top designers, or by some other scientific disintegrity apologists.


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