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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
Herald
 
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Reply Mon 13 Apr, 2015 09:40 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
You should be asking what my greatest achievement as your alien/ILF/g0d-thingy has been.
     No, you are not the one who is going to tell me what should I ask. You have self-pronounced yourself as advocate of the scientism - you are the one to answer the questions on the scientsim. What is the greatest achievement of the contemporary science?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 13 Apr, 2015 09:45 pm
@Herald,
Sending a module to mars.
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FBM
 
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Reply Mon 13 Apr, 2015 09:56 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
You should be asking what my greatest achievement as your alien/ILF/g0d-thingy has been.
     No, you are not the one who is going to tell me what should I ask. You have self-pronounced yourself as advocate of the scientism - you are the one to answer the questions on the scientsim. What is the greatest achievement of the contemporary science?


I was testing you and you passed. You kept the faith, despite having no evidence. Evidence is not required. I am your alien/ILF/god-thingy. You cannot refute this. The clock is ticking...
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 04:09 am
@FBM,
Quote:
I was testing you and you passed. You kept the faith, despite having no evidence. Evidence is not required. I am your alien/ILF/god-thingy. You cannot refute this. The clock is ticking...



LOL:

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Herald
 
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Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 01:43 pm
@FBM,
What is the greatest achievement of the contemporary science?
FBM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 05:42 pm
@Herald,
Thou shalt not demand evidence whilst not having provided any.
Herald
 
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Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 10:12 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Thou shalt not demand evidence whilst not having provided any.
     I don't demand any evidence - I am asking for a statement: What is the greatest achievement of the present-day science?
... and do you make a distinction between 'evidence' and 'claim'?
FBM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 11:10 pm
@Herald,
You are being irreverent to your alien/ILF/god-thingy by posting red herrings. Worship me or die on this lonely planet.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 12:34 am
Believe.

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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 12:54 am
@Herald,
Quote:
What is the greatest achievement of the contemporary science?


That is simple! NOTHING!!!!


O no, not enirely true. contemporary science has dumbed down millions of people . Sorry, I forgot that.
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Herald
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 12:37 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Worship me or die ...
     Honestly speking I prefer to die rather than worshiping an absolute retard.
     Let's consider the sample space of the assumptions for your favourite theory: S = {UAE, BBT, GCU, UHI, OCS} where UAR - is the Universe has always existed; BBT - the Universe has been created in absolute compliance with the claims of the Big Bang 'theory'; GCU - God or another external Intelligence has created the Universe or at least some part of it at some stage of its development; UHI - the Universe has always had its own Intelligence, which is immanent and inseparable part of it; OCS - other case scenario.
     If we assume that this is the exhaustive sample space, then we have: P(UAE) + P(BBT) + P(GCU) + P(UHI) + P(OCS) = 1, the probability of the sum of these assumptions to explain the existence/creation of the Universe is a certain event.
     As we don't know too much about the assumptions, for the theoretical probability of these assumptions we may assign ex officio equal values: P(UAE) = P(BBT) = P(GCU) = P(UHI) = P(OCS) = 0.2
     What can we say about the experimental probability?
P(UAE) = ?
- confirmed by the laws of conservation of energy
- in compliance with most of the laws of physics
- no unresolvable logical contradictions with the predicate logic
so we can assign from here + 0.05
P(GCU) = ?
- complexity of the structures excludes stochastics and suggests determinism
- there is at least one instance of Intelligence existing for sure in the Universe - our own Intelligence
- our affinity to music for example cannot be explained with elementary chemistry and explosions of Higg's bosons, etc.
so we can assign from here + 0.05
P(UHI) = ?
- complex and well arranged structures all over the Universe, at various levels of compliance and synchronisation
- existence of various living organisms at different levels of development of their Intelligence
- Time flows in one direction only and has deterministic nature and obvious causality
- everything in Space and Time is perfectly balanced - the orbits of the planets in the SS for example are like a Swiss clock, and so is the Galaxy year - the rotation of the 'disk' of the Milky Way around Sagittarius ... on a much larger scale
so we can assign from here + 0.05
P(OCS) = ?
- too many gaps and unanswered questions
- according to the second law of thermodynamics the entropy of the Universe is increasing (causing the upcoming of the chaos and the fall of the third shadow), in other words Information is continuously lost in the Universe, which supposes that in the past there has been much more information in the Universe than we can observe and acquire at present, from where follows that some traces about the origin of the Universe might have been irretrievably lost -in other words the Other Case Scenario is rather more confirmed, than more excluded.
so we can assign from here + 0.05
P(BBT) = ?
- none of the processes claimed to have happened by the time of the Big Bang has ever been reproduced in lab conditions - none: neither the creation of 3D space by explosion; nor the launching of Time out of nowhere and out of nothing; nor the ability of Infinite gravity to exist without a force carrier and without causality, etc.
- BBT is in absolute contradiction with five nines of the laws of physics
- major unresolvable contradictions with predicate logic as well
- infinite gap between the BBT and the Quantum Mechanics (the results from the high speed snapshots of the large hadron collider)
from where automatically follows that from here the P(BBT) is minus something
Hence we have: P(UAE) = 0.25; P(GCU) = 0.25; P(UHI) = 0.25; P(OCS) = 0.25; and P(BBT) = 1 - P(UAE) - P(GCU) - P(UHI) - P(OCS) = 1 - 0.25 - 0.25 - 0.25 - 0.25 = 0.00, which means that after applying the experimental probability with verification and validation tests the first assumption proved to be impossible is the assumption that BBT has created the Universe.
     After all that you may try to apply subjective probability - a probability measure resulting from intuition, educated (and non-educated guesses) and personal objective (or biased) estimates. There is no formula to calculate that - usually found by consulting an expert ... in probability and belief revision and not in misrepresenting and misinterpreting primary data from observations.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 01:12 pm
@Herald,
But.. but... lack of evidence proves it to be true. Or at least that is your claim with your ILF theory.
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FBM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 07:16 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
Worship me or die ...
     Honestly speking I prefer to die rather than worshiping an absolute retard.
..


Or perhaps you would just prefer to die a retard. OK, you have insulted your master. Your window of opportunity is closed. You cann0t prove that I'm not your alien/ILF/g0d-thingy. You fail again.

4:0
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 08:15 pm
Herald
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 10:37 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
OK, you have insulted your master. Your window of opportunity is closed. You cann0t prove that I'm not your alien/ILF/g0d-thingy. You fail again.
     I can prove that you could never be able to have anything to do with any civillisation of a higher class.
     1. You are too selfish - very too much suspiciously selfish. Your petty thinking is at the level of the Money Changers of the Shrine. Your theory about the infinite egocentrism does not work in the real world. Do you want to know why? I can prove that with math logic. Suppose you live in a world of absolute villagers-egocentrists, obsessed with the mania for money and power, whose petty thinking suggests that if they only take from life without giving anything and lie all the time they will become somehow fabulously rich and infinitely powerful. Pay attention that you are not alone - all the people around you, let's say N in number, are reasoning at the same level. If your ability to attract money is A and so is the ability of everybody around you , your inability to hold it back is N! x A (all the egocentrists around you are striving to take it away from you), from where automatically follows that your retard theory of the infinite egocentrism, based on infinite greed and stupidity falls apart like a tower of cards ... as a theory and by default.
     2. On the basis of (1) automatically follows that you can never be a civillisation of a higher class, having higher level or reasoning, but will remain forever a villiger with personal complexes, presenting himself as an alien on the net.
     3. In the capacity of an alien your affinity towards the terrestrial science and scientism is very suspicious (if you are an alien you should have made your scientific carreer somewhere else and the terrestrial science does not concern you - it is rather a competition to your scientific level and position), which tells you out that the word is going on about a common scientific carrierist (... and nothing else), ready to sell his mother on cosmic medical trials of the unexpected for the sake of money and power.
FBM
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 12:17 am
@Herald,
http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w561/hapkido1996/TwoTypesOfPeople-25992_zpsoe1oo4ro.jpg
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 08:46 am
@Herald,
Quote:
I can prove that with math logic.


ROFLMAO....

You haven't proven anything with math logic other than you don't know math and you don't know logic.
FBM
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 08:50 am
@parados,
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/hehe.gif
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 08:52 am
@Herald,
Quote:
If your ability to attract money is A and so is the ability of everybody around you , your inability to hold it back is N! x A


OMG..that is too funny.

If we follow your math logic about attraction and numbers then we would all float off into space. The attraction of each object in space is A and the number of objects is N therefore by your logic the earth is only 1 and the other objects in the universe are infinite so the attraction from the other objects would mean we would all be pulled off the earth.

In the capacity of stupid, you have achieved a high standard.
FBM
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 08:56 am
@parados,
Stupid factorial...S! = Herald...
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