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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
FBM
 
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Reply Fri 10 Apr, 2015 08:32 am
@Herald,
I don't see it because you haven't shown any. How about showing some for once instead of spraying red herrings all over every one of your posts?

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Herald
 
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Reply Fri 10 Apr, 2015 12:25 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
How about showing some for once instead of spraying red herrings all over every one of your posts?
     ... and how about you specifying the Gaps, in the first place?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 10 Apr, 2015 01:12 pm
@Herald,
The "Gap" is more like a gaping chasm since you haven't presented any evidence at all to support your claim of ILF.
FBM
 
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Reply Fri 10 Apr, 2015 03:37 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
How about showing some for once instead of spraying red herrings all over every one of your posts?
     ... and how about you specifying the Gaps, in the first place?


I'm not going to repeat myself just to chase after another of your chickenshit red herrings. Turn on your memory function and read the ******* thread. It has been explained. If you're too ******* dense to remember what has been explained to you in your very own thread, you probably have to be watered twice a week. Man up. Where's your ******* evidence that alien/ILF/god-thingys are teleporting instructions for the universe over billions of years to the present, wingnut? http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/emot-tinfoil.gif
Herald
 
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Reply Fri 10 Apr, 2015 09:47 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I'm not going to repeat myself just to chase after another of your chickenshit red herrings.
     Speaking about repeating yourself, what about that one: Man up. Where's your ******* evidence that alien/ILF/god-thingys are teleporting instructions for the universe over billions of years to the present, wingnut?If you don't pay attention it is from the same post.
     You cannot stop repeating it like a broken record, can you?
     So & so you will never be able to enumerate the Gaps, what about your scientific integrity. Don't you think that the taxpayers and the public have the right to receive some quality of service and information value against their taxes, rather than being pigwashed with the crap of scientism?
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 12:22 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
The "Gap" is more like a gaping chasm.
     Thank you for the comprehensive clarification, but under Gaps here are meant hanging concepts and statements in the Big Bang 'theory' that are actually infinite as conceptual gaps and really could be modelled as chasm. If the Big Bang 'theory' has such 'gaping chasm', as you express yourself, the next most natural question is what exactly it is explaining?
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 05:34 am
@Herald,
I repeat what I want, not what you want. I told you before, but your memory is about as long as your dick, apparently. I repeat the fact that you have no evidence because that's the most salient and relevant point to be made: you got nothing but pseudo-intellectual psychobabble, red herrings and other fallacies. Sure as **** no evidence.

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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 11:11 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I repeat what I want, not what you want.
     This is discussion - it is not a kindergarten. You are not supposed to explain to the opponent what to think, how to think, and in what to believe. If you want your answers your way perhaps you should not participate in a discussion, but rather organise a theatre mono-spectacle - with your own monologues all the time.
     Besides that you are not interested in the discussion. All that you are interested in is to prove you misinterpretation and misinterpretation of the situation. To people like you should not be allowed access to any information, for they don't know how to handle it properly and correctly.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 12:16 pm
@Herald,
The fact that you find gaps in evolution to use doesn't make your theory better simply because your theory is ALL GAPS. As has been pointed out to you repeatedly, discounting a theory because it might have some gaps is NOT a valid argument against anything. The point is to see how much evidence there is for each theory. So far there is much more evidence for evolution than there is for yours because you have presented ZERO evidence.
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FBM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 05:47 pm
@Herald,
All I'm interested in is demonstrating very openly, clearly and honestly that you're full of ****. If you want intellectual honesty, then provide some evidence for your claim instead of dishonestly dodging all the time. Where's your evidence, wingnut?

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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 10:03 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
If you want intellectual honesty, then provide some evidence for your claim instead of dishonestly dodging all the time.
     Perhaps I have had great teachers on science desintegrity in the face of some people here.
     Why the hypothetical scenario with the aliens is so critically fatal to your scientism, and since when and how did it become your primary and personal problem?
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 10:20 pm
@Herald,
What would be fatal to science would be the acceptance of truth claims that lack evidence. If you have evidence for your alien/ILF/god-thingy claim, then let's see it. It's not my problem. It's yours. You made a ridiculous claim and have nothing to back it up. You outed yourself as a wingnut and I justifiably called you on it. Got any evidence? Laughing
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 10:40 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
If you have evidence for your alien/ILF/god-thingy claim, then let's see it. It's not my problem.
     Your problem actually is to enumerate the Gaps, without any exception, for otherwise it 'would be fatal to science' to accept 'truth claims that lack evidence'. BTW if you think that you are the Science - think again.
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2015 10:42 pm
@Herald,
It's already been explained to you. I'm not going to enable either your ignorance, laziness or red herrings. Go back a few pages and read the ******* thread with memory turned on. Where's your evidence for your alien/ILF/g0d-thingy?


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/download%202.jpg
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2015 12:23 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
It's already been explained to you.
     Would you name the No. of the post in which "it's already been explained to" me - a listing with enumerated Gaps would be O.K., like for example:
     Gap No.1. Inability to ever prove the assumptions of the Big Bang 'theory'; and the aggressive denialism over the possibility to use various verification & validation tests for the purpose;
     Gap No.2. 'Appearance' of Infinite Gravity without any force carrier;
     Gap No.3. 'Appearance' of Infinite Temperature without any material carrier;
     Gap No.4. Construction of a 'theory' on frivolous inferences by analogy, based on inverted physical processes that nobody has ever observed and/or ever proved that they are able to exist in the physical world as a mirror to the processes, from which they have been derived;
     Gap No.5. Contradiction with basic laws of physics and predicate logic;
     Gap No.6. The existence of Nowhere before Time;
     Gap No.7. Lack of formal definition of Time - what the Time actually is in the physical world ... & how can it be more precisely modelled in the formal models?;
     Gap No. 8. Why the Time is running in one direction only & cannot be reversed; and how exactly some people have got knowing that it can be launched and/or to appear out of Nothing and out of Nowhere;
     Gap No. 9. The inability of the Big Bang 'theory' to explain 96 % of the known Universe
... or something of that kind.
     Also, why is it so difficult to some people to specify problems and discrepancies that are so obvious?
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2015 12:27 am
@Herald,
No, I will not enable your laziness and shortness of memory. Nor am I interested in enabling your reliance on fallacies. Where is your evidence for your claim? What do you know about this alien/ILF/god-thingy that you posit?
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2015 01:00 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
What do you know about this alien/ILF/god-thingy that you posit.
... and I am not interested at all in your unresolvable personal problems with some hypothetical scenario.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2015 02:24 am
@Herald,
Wtf. You're the one who made the claim. Do you retract it now?

Herald wrote:

... my personal are God or some meta-intelligence (string theory) or s.th.; 30% another ILF, sending the designs on the Earth even through some form of teleportation or another form of encoded communication (it might have extinct already by the time the information has came here), and perhaps 25% of the Big Bang and the theory that we are made out of star dust (whatever this might mean) and fused with the time by the Dark Energy and Dark Matter....


Retract it and that will be all it takes to get me off your back about it.
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2015 06:39 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Wtf. You're the one who made the claim. Do you retract it now?
     This was 150 pages ago. You were told what you were told, and after that you were told that nothing else will be told to you any more, for you want to keep misinterpreting the hypothesis scenario to infinity and to present it as something that it was never meant to be.
     BTW belief revision in math logic (for the purposes of verification and validation of truth values), and beliefs in your philosophical understanding of the term (as state of mind), are very different conceptions. This is called cross-scientific misunderstanding - to use terms defined in one formal model in order to make interpretation into a different formal model.
FBM wrote:
Retract it and that will be all it takes to get me off your back about it.
     I may don't know the assumptions, but your scientism does not know them as well, no matter what it may claim.What more do you want to hear? No known stochastic process is able to design biocode out of Higg's bosons, no stochastics can change PNA into DNA ... and out of Nowhere, no stochastics is able to create the laws of physics out of Singularity ... and without the Time component. How many new laws of physics have you designed (not discovered) in the lab by using random processes?
     None of the reverted processes, for which is claimed to have happened by the Big Bang 'theory', has been ever observed happening in the real world. Even the claim about the expansion of the Universe is falling apart like a house of cards. The fact that something can fall down the Niagara falls does not in any way mean that it can sail or swim up-the-falls. The fact that the total collapse of matter can create infinite force carrier and infinite gravity (actually finite, but unmeasurable), does not in any way mean that infinite gravity can appear out of Nowhere and out of Nothing and can create (by anti-collapse perhaps) the matter of the Universe.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2015 07:19 am
@Herald,
I take that red herring bullshit obfuscation as a 'no.' Where's your ******* evidence for your bullshit "45% alien/ILF/god-of-the-gaps, maybe 35% something else and perhaps 25% of some incomprehensible BS" claim? If yo have no evidence, you don't have a ******* leg to stand on, you booter-eating, slack-jawed Raelian, wanna-be moron. Bruh. Do you even science? Bruh. Do you even logic?

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