Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

You've been brainwashed. Wake up!

Show me some evidence that the Smurfs don't exist!

Yup, Oliver, you have neither the moral character, personal integrity, nor sense of honor or principle necessary to acknowledge that I was correct when I said an assertion that "NO GOD EXISTS"...is a just a guess.

Too bad that.

Now you are just doing a dance that you think is clever and might get you out of the hole you have dug for yourself. But all the jig does is to substantiate that you are deficient in all of those qualities.

Since I suspected that was the case, I thank you for helping establish that I was not just being unnecessarily and erroneously judgmental.

Too bad you don't have the slightest clue what these 'gods' of yours are. That too takes moral integrity, Frank: to say clearly what you mean by a word you use all the time.

Either you can define 'gods', or as far as I am concerned, you're talking about the Smurfs.

Oliver, you have neither the moral character, personal integrity, nor sense of honor or principle necessary to acknowledge that I was correct when I said an assertion that "NO GOD EXISTS"...is a just a guess.

And when you keep on digging, as you are prone to do...the fact that you are deficient in those areas just becomes more pronounced.

Maybe one of these would help:

Don't try and give honesty lessons, Frank. Words like 'honor' are disfigured under your pen, and it makes you sound envious to even use them.

Nice try, Olivier...but you really are not cut out for this hardball stuff. You remind me of Spock trying to master "colorful metaphors" in Star Trek, The Voyage Home.

Anyway, you lack integrity; you lack honesty; you lack a sense of personal pride and principle.

Now that you see you do (and I suspect you do see you do)...you are trying to attack me on those points...in an almost laughable failure.

I don't blame you. From the bottom of that hole you've dug for yourself..."try anything" is the only way to go.

Anyway...being a kind guy...and you being someone I like...I'll throw you a rope. Let's see what you do with it.

Earlier YOU described a god that you say DOES NOT EXIST. (Something along the lines of "a god that impacts on our world."

I responded by telling you that even an assertion that kind of god does not exist...is also nothing but a guess. When you responded with variations on that silly "produce the god for us to see" and "we would see if it were impacting on our world"...I gave you are explanation of why that might not be at all. (Extensions of: We humans may be puny little beings completely unable to comprehend the big picture.)

Do you now agree with me that an assertion that the god YOU DESCRIBED DOES NOT EXIST...is only a guess?

There's the rope...let's see how you use it.



Will you use it like this:




Or like this:

Blow me.

Yup...as I expected. You chose to hang, rather than redeem, yourself.

Stay out of these confrontations, Olivier. You always end up bloodied.

It's only YOUR blood I'm covered with...

That is retarded...and one of the reasons I suggest you not engage in these kinds of things. Even a Frenchman like you should be able to see that.

By the way...you are losing your cool again. You cannot look good if you do that.

Just because you are losing blood through all your orifices and some, does not mean I am losing my cool...

John Weiner's book The Beak of the Finch follows Rosemary and Peter Grant's careers in their investment of large amounts of time since the early 1970's,where they've been cataloguing evolution of a population of Finches on a single Island of the Galapagos chain.
They measured the rapid changes of morphology due to the changing climatic and food supply conditions of the island and the rapid natural selection that defines a population of these birds.
Beak types, sizes, feather patterns and other mods have occurred to these birds as a result of the climatic changes, (this is actually in the same pattern as we have seen in industrial melanim like the "peppered moths" which , populationally , hve gone from a dominant white peppering to a dusky peppering, back to a dominant white peppering as industrial smog had occurred and then was controlled in UK between the late 1800's through the 21st century.
Nat selection, a mechanism, allows these changes to occur and, depending on the duration of the environmental event, the morphological changes will either be retain and "fixed" or will revert back to a previous state.
The birds seem to still be in an "unfixed" state, because a small portion of the overall finch population does retain some of the initial (pre climate change) features. If the climate goes back to the "previou nrm" then perhaps the finches will revert. If the environment stays the same, or actually gets more severe (the climate is presently drying and seed capsules are encased in a denser carp, thu favoring a more robust beak form and denser plumage to protect the finches from thorns seen on the plants.
In that case, should the changes remain fixed, and the species becomes a dense feathered, robust beaked finch, evolution has occurred in our time.

Hard to argue a Creationist or ID viewpoint with evidence as this being seen. Small incremental changes in some out of the way corner of the planet.
The story of the Connecticut River alewife populations are also an example of evolution in our time (with a slightly longer time scale involved).

You ( like you always do) confuse micro and macro evolution. You do it again and again and again and again and...

NONE HERE is arguing against micro evolution, mate!!!!

BUT there is NO PROOF for macro evolution!

No, not even micro evolution!

where does this dude come from?

taking advice from you is like taking advice from my pet cat. (shee's no dumber than you but shes a lot cuter).
Whether you accept facts or not has no bering on the course of science.
Youre but a blip of bug **** on the windshield.
Carry on with your obsessions, theyre really fun reading.

You're right, Olivier...you are not losing your cool.

You have already lost it.

If you think I've been bloodied in this encounter...you are delusional.

But don't get me wrong. I love every bone in your head!

So... do you agree that anyone saying "the smurfs do not exist" is making a wild wild guess? :-)

I wonder whose gonna act like the grownup?

Do not do desperation, Olivier...it brings tears to people's eyes.

I asked you a question...which you have avoided like a weasel.

Get back to my question...respond specifically to it...and then go on to smurfs.

I am a "grown-up" FM. And I conduct myself as one...so there is no need for any acting.

Would you like to try the question which has been proposed in several different forms?

Do you agree that the assertion "NO GOD EXISTS"...is a just a guess?

well, apparently its not you. You guys may think you are making arguable points. Most of what I hear is nyah nyah nyah and insults.
try to act like grownups