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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 08:54 am
@parados,
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The odds of one particular person winning the lottery are very high but that doesn't mean no one wins the lottery.


Oh my God!!! These one doesn't even understand a BIT of statistics.
And I am sure he has never heard of "independent stochastic variables"
He probably thinks you can add chances just like that?!
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 10:51 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
That is completely asinine on your part.
     This statement has no sematics relevant to the theme, so I don't know what to answer.
parados wrote:
The number of human DNA sequences currently on earth is NOT the same thing as the number of possible DNA sequences
     Obviously it is not - who is claiming that. The number of currently existing DNA on the Earth is obviously 7 BN and something, and the number of the DNA sequences of the ever existed humans on the Earth is not more than 100 BN, perhaps ... and the number of all possible concerns only the Earth - where do you see any other DNA carriers in the Universe?
     This is a typical example of a straw man - creating a false scenario and then attacking and destroying it. Can you give the reference of the quote where 'I am saying' currently existing rather than all possible?
     This claim about 'the number of possible DNA sequences in the entire universe' is perhaps your personal contribution to the 'theory' of evolution. Nowhere I am saying 'in the entire universe', for actually I meant 'on the Earth only'.
     So and so you are talking about the entire Universe, why don't you explain us the Intelligence, for example. There is visible and observable intelligence - our own and of some higher animals. What about the invisible and the unknown ... and perhaps even unknowable. In physics when the physicists cannot detect something, but there are indirect evidences that it might exist, they call it 'dark'. There is dark matter, dark energy, but there is no dark intelligence, why is that? It is known that the Universe has 2^300 particles, and it is obvious that in the capacity of being so it has computational power of 2^2^300 qubits, but even more obvious is that no such quantum computer of that scale can appear out of nothing ... and by chance. How many conventional computers do you personally know that have appeared out of nothing and by chance, and that have computational power of 0.3 x 2^2^300 teraflops ... as a minimum?
parados
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 01:50 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:
This claim about 'the number of possible DNA sequences in the entire universe' is perhaps your personal contribution to the 'theory' of evolution. Nowhere I am saying 'in the entire universe', for actually I meant 'on the Earth only'.


You went beyond earth when you introduced the Big Bang.

Herald wrote:

If the dilemma is either God or the Evolution/Big Bang, why don't you follow this.


Herald wrote:
This claim about 'the number of possible DNA sequences in the entire universe' is perhaps your personal contribution to the 'theory' of evolution. Nowhere I am saying 'in the entire universe', for actually I meant 'on the Earth only'.

Then why did you bring in the Big Bang?

Herald wrote:
Can you give the reference of the quote where 'I am saying' currently existing rather than all possible?
I can't tell where the hell you got your number from because you haven't told us. You simply pulled it out of thin air. I was simply trying to understand what you were trying to say.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 01:54 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:

Quote:
The odds of one particular person winning the lottery are very high but that doesn't mean no one wins the lottery.


Oh my God!!! These one doesn't even understand a BIT of statistics.
And I am sure he has never heard of "independent stochastic variables"
He probably thinks you can add chances just like that?!

So perhaps you can tell us your math then since you haven't ever bothered to do so.

I will bet the odds of you posting any math here that proves evolution can't occur are 1 chance in 1 quintillion or less.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 01:56 pm
@parados,
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So perhaps you can tell us your math then since you haven't ever bothered to do so.

I will bet the odds of you posting any math here that proves evolution can't occur are 1 chance in 1 quintillion or less.


just look up mathmaticians and evolution, then have a laugh.

You are a joke and have no clue at all.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 01:58 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
It seems my probability is correct.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 02:00 pm
@parados,
I think you haven't taken any time to look it up.

Just admit that you won't get it.

I always have a laugh when I hear people say that because a triljon accidents
organism have been created!

How absurd it all is!

If you have a trilion accidents on a highway, will you get a new truck?


LOL
parados
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 02:00 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
I don't have to look up mathmaticians[sic] and evolution to have a laugh. I have you right here refusing to support your claims.

It seems you have no "******* EVIDENCE", Q. Telling me to go look it up is what you accuse FM of doing to you and Herald while ignoring the fact that he is actually presenting evidence.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 02:02 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
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I always have a laugh when I hear people say that be4cause a triljon accidents
organism have been created!

Are you now moving away from evolution because you can't argue it with any facts? How life was created has nothing to do with evolution of existing life.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 02:04 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
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If you have a trilion accidents on a highway, will you get a new truck?


If you happen to have a trilion[sic] accidents you will end up with a lot of trucks that differ from other trucks in a many ways.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 05:35 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
You do not understand this Universe like I do. I don't need to give you evidence of Science - I can give you information that is beyond today's Science that is evidence Science missed, which is something you could never fathom.

Explain why the Universe's colors never change. Why is it always in order: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, dark blue and purple?

Explain why our planet evolves in that order from the core to the Universe: red, orange and yellow; green, blue and dark blue; purple.

Explain why our human experience contains emotions. Why do these emotions relate to the Universe's colors in the same order? The bottom of our experience is anger - "seeing red". People can learn a lot from an Ox, to understand what red frequencies can do to you. As you transcend from your anxiety, fear, delusion, anger and hatred, you will enter orange and yellow, taking a stand to take control. Then you will learn how to love. Then you can learn how to communicate. Then you can learn how to think. Then you can learn how to "be" in the eyes of the Universe. The purple frequencies. Red + Blue = Purple.

Explain why electromagnetic waves are what allows us to communicate. Explain why we can tell if someone is staring at us without seeing, but feeling via the electromagnetic waves. Explain why we can sense danger and other metaphysical elements of life. Explain why the northern lights are in the same order of colors.

Explain why we wash our hands like a fly.

There is no running from this. If you cower away, it's not because you succeeded - it's because you failed worse than a regular failure; you knew you failed, but you did not accept it; you neglected it. Take a stand, or lose your hand - choose wisely.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 11:19 pm
@parados,
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If you happen to have a trilion[sic] accidents you will end up with a lot of trucks that differ from other trucks in a many ways.


yeah sure, and if you have a trillion accidents over a trillion years you get a Rolls Royce, the newest one!

LOL


How absolutely absurd this evolution **** is!
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2014 11:28 pm
@One Eyed Mind,
Answer my question. You are avoiding my question. That means you have no answer. Which means you cannot say anything.
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Herald
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 12:19 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
You went beyond earth when you introduced the Big Bang.
     If you are curious to know the Big Bang is operating everywhere, including without being limited to, the Earth. According to your fake theory everything is expanding ... and everywhere - your computer is expanding, your newspaper is expending - everything without any exception. It is not only expanding, but it is expanding with acceleration ... and any moment it will reach the rate of expansion of the speed of light in vacuum. The Big Bang is not a hypothetical event in an imaginary universe - it is a mumbo-jumbo of this world, the universe in which we are living, it is supposed to operate in our universe, incl. the Earth and the SS.
parados wrote:
Then why did you bring in the Big Bang?
     Because the Big Bang is your father, this 'theory' is your spiritual leader and object of imitation. I introduced the Big Bang because it is you idol, it is the value carrier of your value system. Just don't blame me for your choice.

Herald wrote:
I can't tell where the hell you got your number from because you haven't told us. You simply pulled it out of thin air.
     You have the DNA sequences of the humans - why don't you 'pull it (the number) out of' whatever you like. BTW this is not a course in knowledge acquisition and logical inference.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 02:26 am
About evolution:

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The descriptive, neo-rationale of reality perceptions do parallel with prescriptive strategies. However, The analogue endomorf ambiguity, does not match the iterative meta-analytical reality perceptions. So, nomological dominant communicaton-patterns define this underlying debris.
This by iteself defines evolution as nonexistent.

Herald
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 08:43 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:
This by iteself defines evolution as nonexistent.
     It is not that easy. New species appear on the Earth all the time. Some species get extinct, and some parts of the DNA sequences are recurrent.
     Notwithstanding that this not necessary mean evolution, the upgrading and updating of the species is happening somehow ... and we don't know a lot of things in-between.
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 09:00 am
@One Eyed Mind,
One Eyed Mind wrote:
Explain why the Universe's colors never change.Why is it always in order: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, dark blue and purple?
     This Universe's colors must be some brand new concept in physics. In our region it is called decomposition of white light. It is arranged in this way because the various colors represent light with specific (range of the) wave length. In the very same way you may ask why 3 and 4 are always between 2 and 5.
RE: Why do the colours never change
     It is because our perception of the light 'is fixed and determined by the structure of our vision system'. When you become a mutant with different eyes' structure or brain perception (in compliance with your fake theory) you may acquire some day different perception of the light spectrum, but at first you will have to explain where the bio-code for doing that will come from ... and how it will be executed by the old system that does not have system interpreter/translator for doing so. Your favorite theory is much more fake than you can possibly imagine.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 09:03 am
@Herald,
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It is not that easy. New species appear on the Earth all the time. Some species get extinct, and some parts of the DNA sequences are recurrent.
Notwithstanding that this not necessary mean evolution, the upgrading and updating of the species is happening somehow ... and we don't know a lot of things in-between.


Sorry, but you didn't get this one.
Just like evolutionist do I just wrote some rubbish and utter nonsense which sounds very professional. But it is really all garbage and gobbledygook.
Exactly what evolutionist do to hide the fact that they can't really defend the rubbish that evolution is.


These people (evolutionists) really think a mouse can change into a bat, but they can't explain how, why etc etc.

They really think that by accidents information is added in stead of lost!

They are really very funny type of people.

Kind of stand up comedians in a way! Wink

Herald
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 09:32 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:
They really think that by accidents information is added in stead of lost! They are really very funny type of people.
     They are not funny - they are jolly jockers. Why don't you ask them to explain us how the DNA decoder in the body metabolism works. How exactly the DNA sequence of: CCC TGT GGA GCC ACA CCC TAG is transcribed into the amino acid chain: Proline-Cysteine-Glycine-Alanine-Threonine-STOP
     Let them explain how can a mind-blowingly neat control system appear out of nothing ... and by chance ... and also how our body metabolism reads and decodes the DNA in real time. I will take some fig doner and Cabernet Franc to watch this life.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 09:45 am
@Herald,
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They are not funny - they are jolly jockers. Why don't you ask them to explain us how the DNA decoder in the body metabolism works. How exactly the DNA sequence of: CCC TGT GGA GCC ACA CCC TAG is transcribed into the amino acid chain: Proline-Cysteine-Glycine-Alanine-Threonine-STOP
Let them explain how can a mind-blowingly neat control system appear out of nothing ... and by chance ... and also how our body metabolism reads and decodes the DNA in real time. I will take some fig doner and Cabernet Franc to watch this life.


Are you crazy!?

You really want me to talk to rocks!?
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