Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@cicerone imposter,

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Actually, evolution is the process by which organisms diversified from earlier forms, so that would include mutations.

Really? Where then is the evidence???

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Me: Evolution is a process of gradual change, and has nothing to do with math.

Math has nothing do with it? I thought it all was random, hence yu can use statistics=math. And when you do, it is bye bye evolutiontheory!

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Why ask me about souls. I'm an atheist.

Well, I respect your choice. However there is plenty and plenty of evidence for an afterlife and thus for a before life. So, yes, of course there are 'souls'
Even you has one Wink

You can also call it consciouness.

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@Quehoniaomath,

How does one use 'statistics' in evolution? It's a process of change.

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@cicerone imposter,

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How does one use 'statistics' in evolution? It's a process of change.

Are you serious?? It is, according to the scientific nuts, RANDOM change.
Hence statistics! And, when you start to calculate the changes for evolution,
it becomes, near zero, nada, nothing, emptiness etc.

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@Quehoniaomath,

LMAO.

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PROBABILITY, STATISTICS, EVOLUTION, AND INTELLIGENT DESIGN

By Peter Olofsson

Posted November 24, 2008

In the last decades, arguments against Darwinian evolution have become increasingly sophisticated, replacing Creationism by Intelligent Design (ID) and the book of Genesis by biochemistry and mathematics. As arguments claiming to be based in probability and statistics are being used to justify the anti-evolution stance, it may be of interest to readers of Chance to investigate methods and claims of ID theorists.

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@cicerone imposter,

So? You are associating now me with creationist to avoid what I am saying?

I am no creationist and don't have to be.

Just use statistics and you will see evolution is false.
statistics is used in a lot of science, psychology, sociology and what have you.
Isn't it strange it isn't used in evolution. Answer: yes, that is very strange!

Is that so difficult for you to accept?

I think it(statistics) is the ultimate test to see if evolution is right or wrong? and, well, the statistics tell us it is wrong.

You are a very funny guy though. First math has nothing to do with it according to you, and now it has something to do with it.

please make up your mind, mate.

and maybe, maybe, maybe, you can tell me why evolution is no hoax?

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@Quehoniaomath,

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I think it(statistics) is the ultimate test to see if evolution is right or wrong?

No, you don't know what evolution is. It's a process of change whether it takes one day or one thousand years. This process is 'observed' and studied, and it doesn't matter how long it takes.

Show us how statistics is used in evolution?

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@cicerone imposter,

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No, you don't know what evolution is. It's a process of change whether it takes one day or one thousand years. This process is 'observed' and studied, and it doesn't matter how long it takes.

I don't know what evolution is??? Really??? Every child is indoctrinated with this enormous crap!!!! Come on, you can do better then that!

One of the things in 'science' is that it must be observable.
Hence, when the nuts (scientis) say " This process is 'observed' and studied, and it doesn't matter how long it takes." That is rather idiotic!

You probably believe this nonsens when it was stuffed down your throath from kindergarten. Right? when you could't think critically, Not your error.
And now you believe it , because it is deeply ingrained in your belief system and because it is repeated and repeated by some nuts some people call scientist.
I tell you what, repeating nonsense doesn't make something a fact.
Only evidence does!
Now, where is the evidence?
And btw why aren't my questions about evolution being asnwered?

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@cicerone imposter,

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Show us how statistics is used in evolution?

You don't read very well now, do you?
It is my whole pont that it isn't used in evolution.
Because, once it is really used in evolution it is bye bye evolution!

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@Quehoniaomath,

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You don't read very well now, do you?
It is my whole pont that it isn't used in evolution.
Because, once it is really used in evolution it is bye bye evolution!

Bull shyt! You're full of it.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Bull shyt! You're full of it.

Is that really all you can say?
I mean it. according to statistics 'evolution' is impossible.
why do you have to 'Bull shyt' about it?
And of course it is all a hoax because it was a hoax from the beginning.
I don't know if you have read my other writings here that it was all created
by the "Lunar Society" to keep people off track from the things they did.
They were deep into black magick and didn't believe evolution themself, because they knew it was a hoax from the beginning.
However, the reason it so widely 'accepted' has more to do with politics then with any 'science'. It is and will be used to make the USA a communistic/fascist state. Isn't it odd, that Hilter, Stalin and Marx were especially brainwashed with this evolution crap? it is e.g. a way to get 'eugenetics' in again. well, whole story about all this, you might imagine!
Do you reasd books?

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@Quehoniaomath,

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I mean it. according to statistics 'evolution' is impossible.

More with politics than science? LMAO

Show me? You're pretty stupid, aren't you.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You charge me with ad homs, then continue with
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Are you blinded by science (a la 'Foreigner').

The key words in that sentence are: Do you have the math (of the theory of evolution)? ... and do you understand what does the question mean?
... and blinded by science (a la 'Foreigner') is only a preamble.

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Evolution is a process of gradual change, and has nothing to do with math.

You obviously haven't understood the question. Can you make a formal model of the processes of evolution and thus showing that they are non-contradictory, plausible (do not contradict to math logic), feasible & possible (can happen in the real world), etc.
Gradual change is a process. If you really understand this process at the level you are claiming you would be able to model it without any problems - with a system of equations or s.th.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Why ask me about souls. I'm an atheist.

So, your claim is that in the capacity of being an atheist you personally don't have a soul (besides not having obviously the math to model the evolution).

cicerone imposter wrote:

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where is the feedback to the bio-code in the evolution theory?
The environment.

What access has the environment to the genes ... and to 'control' their mutations? Do you know what does 'control link' mean?

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@cicerone imposter,

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More with politics than science? LMAO

Show me?

Well, it really does.
However to see it you have to connect a lot of dots.
I would take the time in a personal talk, but it would take a few hours.
But maybe yu can see the video : "Expelled, no intelligence allowed" in which it doesn't show you the whole story, but is show very clearly how scared universities are to think critically about all this.
Now what important is about Universities is that they are not the free thinking institutes they pretend they are. Universities are really lawfull companies, and most of them are owned by the Rockefeller family.
And, wel,l, to put it mildly, this family hasn't our best interest at heart!

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You're pretty stupid, aren't you.

Yes, I am very very stupid.
But that doesn't mean I am wrong. Wink

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@Herald,

You wrote (with much ignorance),

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What access has the environment to the genes ... and to 'control' their mutations? Do you know what does 'control link' mean?

It's no wonder you have no idea what evolution is. It's not "what access the environment has to the genes," it's what the genes environment is.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

It's no wonder you have no idea what evolution is. It's not "what access the environment has to the genes," it's what the genes environment is.

... and it's no wonder you skipped conveniently the upper part of the reply and went directly to the conclusion: You wrote (with much ignorance)
You claim that the environment makes the genes to change (which is highly disputable), the genes change and if the environment does not like the mutation what happens next? This is very naivistic explanation of the things.

cicerone imposter wrote:

It's no wonder you have no idea what evolution is.

... and you have the idea - why don't you share it?

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@Herald,

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You claim that the environment makes the genes to change (which is highly disputable)

Wel, he is partly right here according to the works of Bruce Lipton.

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According to Bruce Lipton, the genes do not control life but rather epigenetic factors associated with nutrition, environmental exposure and even belief and emotion. By changing the environment of the genes, and the way you perceive things, you can change your destiny.

Bruce is a cellular biologist who is the author of “The Biology Of Belief” and “Spontaneous Evolution”. He talks about his life, his work, and how he sees the predicament of the human race.

http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/the-genes-dont-control-life-the-new-biology-with-bruce-lipton/

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@Herald,

I already have; idiots don't learn much, and you're one of them.

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@cicerone imposter,

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I already have; idiots don't learn much, and you're one of them.

You are getting a bit cheap now aren't you?
Just one Ad Hominem. Mostly a sign of having no argumnets left.

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@cicerone imposter,

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I already have; idiots don't learn much, and you're one of them.

This is not a big news ... taking in mind that there are some other even more greater idiots who cannot even read - we are not talking about understanding and learning yet.

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@Quehoniaomath,

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the genes do not control life but rather epigenetic factors associated with nutrition,

Ci is obviously an expert in epigenetics (and its use as an ad hom argument out of context) and will explain to us in details the exact mechanics of the alterations in the transcriptional potential of the cell over one and the same DNA sequence ... depending on the changes of the environment.

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