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God vs Chuck Darwin on mixed marriage...

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 12:45 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Nor did I say you were antisemite.
U said that I favored Hitler. I never did. I champion Individualism n feeble government.
I have always been very anti-authoritarian (hence anti-liberal),
anti-collectivist and NOT anti-Jewish.
Since 9/11/1, I have been anti-Moslem.





Olivier5 wrote:
But I do think eugenics deserve all the bad rap
they got from their association with Nazism.
I respect your right to an opinion, of your choice.
I dissent from it.


Olivier5 wrote:
Re. your personal taste, the problem is:
if eugenics become a technical and legal possibility, almost
EVERYBODY will go for the same fashionable looks, and that would
mean a reduction of human biodiversity. In a few generations we'll all
look the same. Look at how women doing nose jobs all chose the same straight,
impersonal profile. It's not like some chose a potato
nose and others a flat nose and yet others an aquiline one...
We are all fashion victims.
Our human bodies r our vehicles.
The same as we have the right to buy a car of our taste
and to tweak it, dress it out to our respective tastes,
so also the same principle applies to our human bodies
by genetic means, or by whatever works.





David
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 01:03 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Just like you disliked your looks, your blond son may dislike his. It's human nature: we're never satisfied with what we have. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, etc.

In your case though, it goes beyond that apparently. You have internalized society's racial prejudice against your own physical type. You're like black people who don't like black people or Jews ashamed of being Jewish. I find it sad. Dark skin is a great genetic advantage re. skin cancer, and it's beautiful too... It's all in the eye of the beholder, there's nothing objectively more beautiful in Vikings than in, say, Semite or Bantou or Mediterranean or Indian types...

And he wouldn't really be your genetic son if he looked like a viking and you look like a Mexican... He would not feel like your son either, on a purely instinctive level. Children sense that, and parents too, even if they are not aware of it. Genetic proximity makes us love our kids more, it's a Darwinian thing. Of course you can love an adopted child and he/she can love you back, but it's more nurture than nature.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 02:17 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Just like you disliked your looks, your blond son may dislike his.
It's human nature: we're never satisfied with what we have.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, etc.
U never know. I knew a woman whose mother was
a very prominent Justice of the NY Supreme Court.
She intentionally ruined her mother 's career; ended it.

I doubt that she had expected that.


Olivier5 wrote:
In your case though, it goes beyond that apparently.
You have internalized society's racial prejudice against your own physical type.
That 's a rather aggressive ASSUMPTION there.
I was aversive to my appearance long b4 anyone else expressed dislike of it.
Where do u get off telling me where my tastes came from ??



Olivier5 wrote:
You're like black people who don't like black people or Jews ashamed of being Jewish. I find it sad.
I find it a lot SADDER since I 'm the one that has to put up with an olive complexion.
I try to stay out of the sun as much as possible. The sun makes it worse.




Olivier5 wrote:
Dark skin is a great genetic advantage re. skin cancer,
I have consoled myself with that.



Olivier5 wrote:
and it's beautiful too...
Its gross & repugnant.
I seldom find a mirror that fails to insult me. That 's sad.
I 'm old enuf now that it does not matter.





Olivier5 wrote:
Its all in the eye of the beholder,
I can't deny that.





Olivier5 wrote:
And he wouldn't really be your genetic son
if he looked like a viking and you look like a Mexican...
Nonsense; my genetic make-up and his wud be
whatever thay were regardless of what we look like.
Thay tend to produce similar results, but don't always.
I was the only member of my family that became so afflicted.




Olivier5 wrote:
would not feel like your son either, on a purely instinctive level.
Nonsense; u r projecting yourself onto me.
That does not work.





David



Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 08:53 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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I was aversive to my appearance long b4 anyone else expressed dislike of it.

Really? How can a kid even THINK of hating his own complexion? Kids are very perceptive about these things, they can absorb prejudice without even knowing it.

Check this out:


OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 12:12 pm
@Olivier5,
DAVID wrote:
I was aversive to my appearance long b4 anyone else expressed dislike of it.
Olivier5 wrote:
Really? How can a kid even THINK of hating his own complexion?
Kids think the same as anyone thinks. I did.
I was white in NY and very abruptly darker in Arizona,
within a few hours. It was pretty damn obvious. Alarming.




Olivier5 wrote:
Kids are very perceptive about these things,
they can absorb prejudice without even knowing it.
Yeah? Well I became prejudiced against having an olive complexion
as soon as it HAPPENED to me. When I broke my arm, I did not like that much, either.
I did not need propaganda to reach the conclusion that fx arms are bad.





David
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 01:42 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Code:I was white in NY and very abruptly darker in Arizona,
within a few hours. It was pretty damn obvious. Alarming.

Why should you be alarmed about a natural phenomenon protecting you from potentially harmful UV ? You might as well be alarmed by the protection offered by your immune system, or for having eyelids protecting your eyes.

Do you believe in God? If yes, consider that melanine is His creation too. In any case, it's something to be grateful for, not ashamed of or worried about.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 02:11 pm
@Olivier5,
DAVID wrote:
I was white in NY and very abruptly darker in Arizona,
within a few hours. It was pretty damn obvious. Alarming.
Olivier5 wrote:
Why should you be alarmed about a natural phenomenon
protecting you from potentially harmful UV ?
Because all of a sudden,
I looked HORRIBLE; at the age of 8,
I was not thinking of UV radiation.
I did not like changing color.

A few days ago, a woman commented on my olive complexion.
I 'm sure that she meant it as a compliment. She was very, very white.
I told her, most sincerely, that if it were possible, I 'd trade colors with her.





David
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 02:29 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
In my experience, very white women easily fall for darker men. They tend to feel attracted to what French women call 'le beau ténébreux'.

We're back to the thread theme: mixed marriages are what we all dream about, perhaps because hybridization is genetically most profitable.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 09:33 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
In my experience, very white women easily fall for darker men.
They tend to feel attracted to what French women call 'le beau ténébreux'.
She married a couple of blonds (seriatim).



Olivier5 wrote:
We're back to the thread theme:
mixed marriages are what we all dream about,
perhaps because hybridization is genetically most profitable.
Hay, don't speak for me; some nerve!
If I were going to get married,
I 'd want maximum whiteness, in a blue eyed blonde
.
Admittedly, her personality 'd be extremely important,
as well as her tastes n mental abilities.

As long as I don't get married, that does not matter.





David
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 30 Sep, 2013 11:01 pm
@Olivier5,
One thing you do have to admire in black women is that they come in the bigger sizes and can still walk and chew gum at the same time...

http://healthblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/05/venus1.jpg

Glad she can hold a racquet like that and hit anything with it, I know I couldn't...
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 01:48 am
@gungasnake,
I like them thiner, the gazelle type... My wife is part Guinean and she's the cutest of them all. :-) generally speaking, mix-race people's physique rocks. Hybrid vigor, it's called.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 01:49 am
@OmSigDAVID,
So you're a brownish guy who wants a blond girl. What else is new?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 02:45 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
So you're a brownish guy who wants a blond girl. What else is new?
I was a lot LESS brownish b4 my un-due exposure to the sun at age 8,
from which I have never fully recovered.





David
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:06 am
@Olivier5,
I remember Martina Hingis wiping Venus at the US Open in 98 or 99 whatever it was and thinking that Venus had all the room in the world to improve skills while Hingis would never get an inch taller or a solid pound heavier. Sure enough, and it only took the one more year...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:39 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
... while Hingis would never get an inch taller or a solid pound heavier ....
When you look at her parents, you'll understand why. Or at least others will do.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 06:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I was a lot LESS brownish b4 my un-due exposure to the sun at age 8,

What, you were tied to the ground naked by some Apache in the desert or something?

Exposure to the sun is NORMAL! To tan as a result is NORMAL! Stop thinking of yourself as some ugly little duckling because somehow you have a better melanin production capacity than your siblings. Rolling Eyes
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 07:04 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I see no "moral issues" involved.


Duh.
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