hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 10:08 am
@RABEL222,
I have no trouble imagining that 3.8 million are on the program by fraud and should be kicked out, so I might be fine with that.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
You must live in a very affluent part of the country. In the part I live in there are no jobs because industry has been moved to Mexico or Texas. The only jobs here are farm jobs at minimum wage and sometimes lower depending on whether a man wants to feed his family. Everyone here needs food stamps for food. I guess in your part of the country they spend them on booze.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:48 pm
@RABEL222,
america earns $50,000 per person in revenue per year (gdp), food has rarely been cheaper in the history of man, and yet you are telling me that people cant afford to eat? maybe we have problems that food givaways will not solve.

on the other hand how many people on foodstamps have an Android or an Iphone and the resulting $100+ a month in phone bills? that is one data point I would like to see before coconcluding that food is unobtainable due to lack of money.
Rockhead
 
  1  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 04:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
so, people with a cell phone should not get any assistance with food...

how very socialist of you.

what other "luxuries" should they give up before they get help?

cars?

bicycles?

extra shoes?
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 04:57 pm
@Rockhead,
a simple cell phone costs $20 a month, not $100. there is $80 for food right there. the average foodstamp handout per month is $133.

maybe priorities need an adjustment.

edit: I have an employee who has high blood pressure that she knows she should get treated, and could do it for $50 a month ( including appointments to monitor) at a local low cost clinic, but she says she cant afford it. she does however have a iphone, and just bought that new xbox game for her xbox. WTF?
Rockhead
 
  3  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 05:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
maybe you have no idea of what reality is for poor people.

you know, the trailer trash and welfare queens and such...
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 05:04 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

maybe you have no idea of what reality is for poor people.

you know, the trailer trash and welfare queens and such...
I bet the reality is that they want the government to chip in for their food budget so that they can free up enough money for a smartphone.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 05:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
that's because you think that they all view the world like you do. bad bet...

we're done here, idjit boy.

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JTT
 
  0  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 05:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
I have no trouble imagining that 3.8 million are on the program by fraud and should be kicked out, so I might be fine with that.


Remember what happened to the "let them eat cake" folks.
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 10:05 pm
@hawkeye10,
Really!!! Someone owes me $15,000 than. Like I said you must live in an affluent part of the country.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 05:24 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

america earns $50,000 per person in revenue per year (gdp),


That looks like the median household income per year, not individual. Medians, by definition, mean the 50% earn less than that and 50% earn more. The inflation adjusted three year average household income in Southerland's home state of FL is $46,175. Twelve states are lower than FL. Even taking your $50K median as a starting point, 25% or more of that goes back to the government in the form of federal, state, local, employment, property, and various sales and use taxes. So the median discretionary income comes down to something closer to $3K/month per household. Not chicken scratch, but not living large either. Again though, by definition, half of the people make less than that. Many of them far less. Using median income numbers to determine how much money an individual family has is bogus.

I don't have any problem with eliminating fraud, but I see a big bureaucratic nightmare in determining who is able-bodied (being ineligible for SSI doesn't necessarily mean you're able-bodied) and coordinating their work and/or volunteer hours to their SNAP allocation. Southerland's 3.8M fewer recipients saving $4B doesn't appear to take any increase in overhead into account.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 05:41 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:

Do you ever look to see what the Republican Party is doing? Especially the Teaparty faction. It's criminal.


Tell me about it! The Tea Party can be described as a cancer among the most extreme Republicans. They are truly disgusting. What one can do with this type of cancer is to excise it, roots and all. Unfortunately, Americans will have to suffer through this blight on humanity for a little longer, or until the Tea Party gets tired of itself. Edgar, did you watch the Jackass, ted cruz, perform for 21 hours straight? What buffoonery!

Gotta split......later, friend
JTT
 
  0  
Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 08:43 am
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
The Tea Party can be described as a cancer among the most extreme Republicans.


A cancer inextricably meshed within another cancer which exchanges positions every few years with the Democrat cancer. And it is this blight on humanity that has been responsible for the deaths of millions for two centuries.

The grand experiment has been a major fraud since day one, MiT, but you keep on keeping on.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 11:17 am
@Moment-in-Time,
I almost watched the Jackass, Ted Cruz. I also almost watched the Jackass, Barack Obama. In the end, I just decided to read a good book. I've had enough of all the jackasses up there.
JTT
 
  0  
Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 11:19 am
@CoastalRat,
Government of the sheeple, by the sheeple, for the sheeple.
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parados
 
  1  
Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 11:58 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

a simple cell phone costs $20 a month, not $100. there is $80 for food right there. the average foodstamp handout per month is $133.
Which is why the program that supplies phone service to poor people has switched to cell phones.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 02:03 am
Baldimo et al... I did clarify my point, perhaps you'd like to go back and read what I wrote.
Regardless, as to the rest of you that wonder why I bother to give my opinion on a country I don't live in. Well, there are a myriad of reasons, but mainly, you're my neighbours. And like most neighbours, I care if mine are having a good life. Ya know, like having a job - just one - not run off their feet, feeding their children, not suffering from illness or pain, being able to educate their children, afford dental and eye care. Or having a government not caught in an endless pissing match.
This may come as a surprise, but this is what most people want. A healthy, happy, prosperous country.
If that concept is too hard to grasp. God, or whatever you believe in, help us all.
JTT
 
  0  
Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 10:05 am
@Ceili,
Quote:
as to the rest of you that wonder why I bother to give my opinion on a country I don't live in.


I don't know who the hell you think you are, Ceili, giving your opinion on the US.

People from the US never give their opinions about other countries. Hell, Americans never give their opinions about anything, they never interfere in other countries affairs. They're just nice, quiet people; all they want is to get along with the world.

You really should be more circumspect and follow their lead.
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Sun 29 Sep, 2013 12:06 pm
@Kolyo,
If anyone in the NFL Pick-Em thread was wondering why I felt I should leave for a while, well, it's because of comments like this:

I wrote:

What's absurd is that you consider it worth your while to engage Republican cockroaches in conversation.


Fine way to repay all the a2k Republicans who went out of their way to make me feel welcome at this site, wasn't it? Sad

So that's why I'm staying away from politically acrimonious threads until November at the earliest. I'll just be posting weekly NFL picks for a while.
(I have to avoid comments like that one.)
Rockhead
 
  2  
Reply Sun 29 Sep, 2013 12:09 pm
@Kolyo,
the political threads here are overrun with assholes.

don't let it ruin the rest of the place for you...
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