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Did anybody on here catch that physics forum on superdeterminism?

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2013 08:27 am
@HpDarkman,
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if you had a machine that flipped a coin with a precise force into a vacuum, you could have it flip heads again and again every time.

Flipping a coin is usually not done in a vacuum. It's also not usually done by machines. For all intent and purposes, an honest human being flipping a coin within the earth atmosphere behaves as a random event, if only because there are so many uncontrolled variables at play. Of course the tosser can cheat and fake the flipping, it's quite easy to do in fact.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2013 08:48 am
A flipped coin can never be guaranteed 100% to come up heads or tails because there's a tiny chance it could stand on its end.
Even baseball bats might stand on end when dropped-



Incidentally illusionist Derren Brown once said on TV that he could make a coin come up heads 10 times in a row, then proceeded to do exactly that!
It was a trick and afterwards he explained how he did it, anybody remember the show and his explanation?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2013 10:11 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
https://www.google.ca/#q=Derren+Brown+TV++coin+come+up+heads+10+times
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 30 Oct, 2013 10:22 am
@HpDarkman,
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Seriously how can it not be obvious that if you were able to provide the same force to a coinflip again and again you could get heads heads heads or tails tails tails forever.
Hp many more factors intervene such as the effect of wear, changes in the environment owing to the effect of nearby objects, rotation of the earth, its position re the sun etc etc
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HpDarkman
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2014 11:41 pm
a coin toss isnt random. also unpredictability does not necessitate randomness
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