Smileyrius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 02:29 am
@KoreanGodBeliever,
To be fair my friend, if you were to stare at your hand for a few million years I imagine at the very least mould might appear
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KoreanGodBeliever
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 02:45 am
@Frank Apisa,
You have to understand, that even the so called Big Bang was a creation of sorts. Because it led to the creation of all things. I like to think it was God. If you don't believe in God, I'd like to hear from your perspective.
FBM
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 03:15 am
@KoreanGodBeliever,
KoreanGodBeliever wrote:

... Something has to create something.


Why?

Quote:
And in my world I believe it to be God.


Then what created your god? And what created the god that created your god?

I really couldn't care less what you believe, and I wouldn't consider it any of my business if you weren't actively trying to spread this nonsense. But since you've come to a public forum to do so, be prepared to get taken to task.

진짜 한국인 않을 것 같아요.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 03:36 am
@KoreanGodBeliever,
KoreanGodBeliever wrote:

You have to understand, that even the so called Big Bang was a creation of sorts. Because it led to the creation of all things. I like to think it was God. If you don't believe in God, I'd like to hear from your perspective.


You said:

Quote:
Who created man? Who created atoms? Nothing can be of nothing.


I responded:

Quote:
Nothing???

So who created whatever "created man?"

Who created whatever "created atoms?"


I'd like to hear your answer to that.
KoreanGodBeliever
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 03:43 am
@Frank Apisa,
I don't know. But like I said I like to think it was God.
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Johnjohnjohn
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 09:03 pm
@Frank Apisa,
God can do anything , as said before in the scriptures.

Is "just being there from nothing" something? Yes

So that means God can do it.

Hes the only creator existing.

Anyone or anything on earth that created is just putting objects together that God made from the start.

Its like putting together a puzzle piece. Just because you created the image, does that mean you created the puzzle pieces you started with? No. Someone else did.

neologist
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 12:29 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
. . . Then what created your god? And what created the god that created your god?
If indeed there is a creator, this question would be irrelevant.
FBM wrote:
. I really couldn't care less what you believe, and I wouldn't consider it any of my business if you weren't actively trying to spread this nonsense. But since you've come to a public forum to do so, be prepared to get taken to task. . .
Steel sharpens steel, my friend.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 03:21 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
FBM wrote:
. . . Then what created your god? And what created the god that created your god?
If indeed there is a creator, this question would be irrelevant.


Nonsense--most of the religions with which i am familiar don't imagine a creator god. You're just dodging the question by assuming the silly, monotheistic god of the middle east.

Quote:
Steel sharpens steel, my friend.


Your conceit is unwarranted, predictable and boring.
onevoice
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 05:43 am
@FBM,
Gonna be a hectic day roday., so I dont have time to read everything I've missed. But this caught my eye:

Quote:
Theists: Gawd did this! Gawd did that! Gawd sez this! Gawd sez that! Gawd wants you to do this! Gawd doesn't want you to do that! Gawd loves this! Gawd hates that! Gawd sez this because of this! Gawd sez this because of that!


Yep. You nailded it fbm. There's a whole lot of that going on now a days in the world. Unfortunately the majority of what is being shouted from the mountains is wrong. God is love. That's it. That simple. Most Christians seem to have forgotten that. God IS love. He's not a dictator. He's not sitting on a throne waiting for us to fail so He can laugh at us or mock us. We (as in mankind) went wrong. Not God.
timur
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 05:51 am
@onevoice,
Where have you found that god is love?

Here, probably?

Ezekiel 5 wrote:
13 “Only then will I calm down and let my anger cool. Then you’ll know that I was serious about this all along, that I’m a jealous God and not to be trifled with.

14-15 “When I get done with you, you’ll be a pile of rubble. Nations who walk by will make coarse jokes. When I finish my angry punishment and searing rebukes, you’ll be reduced to an object of ridicule and mockery, turned into a horror story circulating among the surrounding nations. I, God, have spoken.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 06:01 am
@Johnjohnjohn,
Johnjohnjohn wrote:

God can do anything , as said before in the scriptures.

Is "just being there from nothing" something? Yes

So that means God can do it.

Hes the only creator existing.

Anyone or anything on earth that created is just putting objects together that God made from the start.

Its like putting together a puzzle piece. Just because you created the image, does that mean you created the puzzle pieces you started with? No. Someone else did.




Interesting guesses, John. Thank you for sharing them.
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 08:18 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

FBM wrote:
. . . Then what created your god? And what created the god that created your god?
If indeed there is a creator, this question would be irrelevant.


a) To quote the Spartan ephors: "If."
b) Why?


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FBM
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 08:21 am
@onevoice,
onevoice wrote:

Gonna be a hectic day roday., so I dont have time to read everything I've missed. But this caught my eye:

Quote:
Theists: Gawd did this! Gawd did that! Gawd sez this! Gawd sez that! Gawd wants you to do this! Gawd doesn't want you to do that! Gawd loves this! Gawd hates that! Gawd sez this because of this! Gawd sez this because of that!


Yep. You nailded it fbm. There's a whole lot of that going on now a days in the world. Unfortunately the majority of what is being shouted from the mountains is wrong. God is love. That's it. That simple. Most Christians seem to have forgotten that. God IS love. He's not a dictator. He's not sitting on a throne waiting for us to fail so He can laugh at us or mock us. We (as in mankind) went wrong. Not God.


If he/she/it exists at all, which is the really relevant question. The rest is just so much postulating about how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 08:34 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
. . . most of the religions with which i am familiar don't imagine a creator god. . .
I see I have been mistaken. I thought you were an expert on all religions.
OregonFlyBy
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 01:39 pm
Well, that's the point of Christianity. Father and son together with holy spirit.
So, yes, Jesus is God, because they all go hand in hand as One.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 01:47 pm
@OregonFlyBy,
OregonFlyBy wrote:
Well, that's the point of Christianity. Father and son together with holy spirit.
So, yes, Jesus is God, because they all go hand in hand as One.
Ok, then: Who resurrected Jesus?
OregonFlyBy
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 01:57 pm
@neologist,
I don´t believe in material resurrection as a body, but in spiritual one as a soul.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 03:46 pm
@OregonFlyBy,
OregonFlyBy wrote:
I don´t believe in material resurrection as a body, but in spiritual one as a soul.
OK. You have raised a few issues. But first please clarify:
Did Jesus actually die?
Johnjohnjohn
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 04:32 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Guesses..lol

And what do you propose is the truth, since you work so hard to disprove everyone speaking the truth ( Gods truth)?


I want an answer from every nonbeliever/rejecter of Christ
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2015 04:45 pm
@neologist,
You always were a snide son of a bitch. That's a straw man, because i have never made any such claim. You're the one making universal claims.
 

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