FBM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 12:50 am
@KoreanGodBeliever,
KoreanGodBeliever wrote:

Who created man? Who created atoms? Nothing can be of nothing.


Why not?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 01:34 am
@FBM,
Because he can't comprehend it. (Isn't it always the way?)
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 03:12 am
@KoreanGodBeliever,
KoreanGodBeliever wrote:

Who created man? Who created atoms? Nothing can be of nothing.


Nothing???

So who created whatever "created man?"

Who created whatever "created atoms?"
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 05:35 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Because he can't comprehend it. (Isn't it always the way?)


That's my guess.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 05:37 am
@FBM,
BillRM is the same, but from the other side. He's an atheist because he can't comprehend God.

Not the best reason.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 05:53 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

BillRM is the same, but from the other side. He's an atheist because he can't comprehend God.

Not the best reason.


Comprehending a god would be to comprehend the supernatural, magical, transcendental, etc. I have to confess that I can't comprehend those things themselves, just the human constructs of them. I comprehend the concepts, but not what the concepts entail. For example, how there could be this being ostensibly outside the universe, other, and that being simply wills the entire universe into existence. I can type the words, but wtf do they actually mean in terms of reality outside the mind?
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Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 05:57 am
@Frank Apisa,
This is where causality starts to cross eyes. As you cannot have an infinite number of finite causes, either the first cause had no cause or the first cause is an infinite one.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 07:08 am
Interesting that so many are proud of understanding 'nothing' :-)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 07:12 am
@Leadfoot,
It's beyond you.
0 Replies
 
FBM
 
  2  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 07:24 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot wrote:

Interesting that so many are proud of understanding 'nothing' :-)


Understanding "nothing":

Theists: Gawd did this! Gawd did that! Gawd sez this! Gawd sez that! Gawd wants you to do this! Gawd doesn't want you to do that! Gawd loves this! Gawd hates that! Gawd sez this because of this! Gawd sez this because of that!

Non-theist: What do you mean by "god," anway?

Who understands nothing, after all?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 09:29 am
Hmmm... Usually it's the atheists saying theists can't take a joke...
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 09:51 am
@Leadfoot,
That's because nobody needs to point out it's a joke.
Leadfoot
 
  1  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 09:56 am
@izzythepush,
Then do you always respond to jokes with an insult?
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 10:01 am
@Leadfoot,
Because a joke should be funny. Yours wasn't and you had to point out that it was a joke. If you have to do that, there's no point, unless it's a face saving exercise which I suspect it might be.
Leadfoot
 
  1  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 10:12 am
@izzythepush,
Message received. No more smiley faces for izzy!
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 10:21 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
. . . Who understands nothing, after all?
Where is JLNobody when you need him?
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 02:57 pm
@Leadfoot,
Thank you.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 24 Sep, 2015 05:30 pm
I am amused by those who claim they cannot comprehend a God as if it was a statement of absolute rationality rather than limited perception.

Hey, if you don't buy that God exists, that's fine by me. It's certainly not, at all, a ridiculous position to take.

What is a ridiculous position to take is that because a great many people (including non-believers) have an infantile understanding of God, that ergo, God cannot exist.

neologist
 
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Reply Thu 24 Sep, 2015 06:34 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
What is a ridiculous position to take is that because a great many people (including non-believers) have an infantile understanding of God, that ergo, God cannot exist.


Exclamation
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KoreanGodBeliever
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2015 12:33 am
@FBM,
When you stare into your hand for hours, does anything appear? no. Something has to create something. And in my world I believe it to be God.
 

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