neologist
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:34 am
@worldtraveler24,
So much stuff and me with a real life to live. I'll just take this one point for now:
We do baptize. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit as per Matthew 28:19. Three separate identities, I might add. And only 2 are persons.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:55 am
Quote:
Frank Apisa said to me: You went looking for a god...and you found it.

Nah mate, I went looking for the TRUTH..Smile
The way Jesus was taught to us at school made him seem a bit boring because he never seemed to have any fun, and I much preferred Davy Crockett.
My parents were never religious, for example when my mother shouted at our cat to "Get away" because he was asking for a morsel off her dinner plate, I jokingly said "Jesus won't be happy with you" and she replied- "I don't care about bleddy Jesus!"
As for my dad, I could sense that he respected Jesus but wouldn't admit it, for example I saw him watching 'Jesus of Nazareth' on TV from behind his newspaper.
As I got into my mid-teens and began looking into the bible for myself instead of relying on the poor way it'd been taught to us at school, I realised it was full of fascinating hidden depths and i've been hooked ever since..Smile
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 11:10 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Frank Apisa said to me: You went looking for a god...and you found it.

Nah mate, I went looking for the TRUTH..Smile


but you got stuck up your own arse.

If you'd really gone looking for the Truth, you'd still be looking.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 11:42 am
@izzythepush,
Nonchristians and atheists say they're on their own 'path' or 'journey', which means they're locked into a dangerous mindset of forever wandering in the wilderness without ever coming home.
But true Christians HAVE come home, they're inside the mighty fortress of Christianity which has strong 2000-year-old walls a hundred feet thick and it's warm and light and friendly inside, completely rent-free with guaranteed permanent security of tenancy.
To get in, people needn't be shy, they simply have to knock at the door, the kettle's always on Smile
Jesus said - "Knock and the door will be opened.....whoever comes to me I'll never turn away" (Matt 7:7/ John 6:37)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CastleB.gif~original

worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 01:41 pm
@neologist,
Neo,
Thanks for the reply. I agree that there are not three persons... get this-- neither are there two persons. There is only ONE person and His name is JESUS ! Jehovah became a person in the body of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is not a person it is the Spirit of Jesus --Jesus Himself said that He would not leave His disciple comfortless ...He said I will come unto you. wil not leaue you comfortlesse, I will come to you. All versions say, "I will come unto you", who?? Jesus said I will come unto you. Who is the comforter?? JESUS--it is quite clear if you will open your eyes!

- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

"I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
- New American Standard Version (1995)

I will not leave you desolate: I come unto you.
- American Standard Version (1901)

I will not let you be without a friend: I am coming to you.
- Basic English Bible

I will not leave you orphans, I am coming to you.
- Darby Bible

I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you.
- Webster's Bible

I will not leave you bereaved: I am coming to you.
- Weymouth Bible

I will not leave you orphans. I will come to you.


According to Acts 2:38 the baptismal formula is in the Name of Jesus! When Jesus gave the Great Commission he said baptizing them in the NAME (not titles) of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Father, is a title not a name. Son is a title, not a name, Holy Ghost is a title not a name. Peter understood what Jesus said in Matthew 28: 19 and baptized all of the converts in the Name of Jesus. Not one scripture will prove that the early church baptized in the titles father, son and holy ghost. NEVER.

But there are several scriptures where the converts were baptized in water in the Name of Jesus. Act 2:38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts chapter 10 --After they received the Holy Ghost they speak with tongues and magnified GOD. The Peter commanded them to be baptized in the Name of the Lord.

Acts: 19: 5 And they were baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus! Do I need to go on??

It is all there! JESUS IS THE ONLY SAVING NAME--ACTS 4;12
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 01:55 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Frank Apisa said to me: You went looking for a god...and you found it.

Nah mate, I went looking for the TRUTH..Smile


Sorry, Romeo...but you went looking for a god...and you found one.

Too bad you picked such a murderous, barbaric loser to worship...which apparently you did simply because your Jesus worshiped him so!
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:04 pm
Quote:
Frank Apisa said: Sorry, Romeo...but you went looking for a god...and you found one. Too bad you picked such a murderous, barbaric loser to worship...which apparently you did simply because your Jesus worshiped him so!

Mate, you must have accidentally missed a question I asked you in a thread a while back, so let me repeat it-
"When you were in Strategic Air Command during the Cold War years, you were quite prepared to nuke russki cities full of fluffy kittens, so doesn't that make you pretty much of a monster yourself?"
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:06 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Frank Apisa said: Sorry, Romeo...but you went looking for a god...and you found one. Too bad you picked such a murderous, barbaric loser to worship...which apparently you did simply because your Jesus worshiped him so!

Mate, you must have accidentally missed a question I asked you in a thread a while back, so let me repeat it-
"When you were in Strategic Air Command during the Cold War years, you were quite prepared to nuke russki cities full of fluffy kittens, so doesn't that make you pretty much of a monster yourself?"


Could be, Romeo.

But what does that have to do with the fact that the god your Jesus worshiped is a murderous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick to anger, tyrannical, barbaric, petty god?
worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Because HE IS GOD and can do as He pleases! That is why!
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:16 pm
Quote:
Romeo asked Frank Apisa: When you were in Strategic Air Command during the Cold War years, you were quite prepared to nuke russki cities full of fluffy kittens, so doesn't that make you pretty much of a monster yourself?
Frank Apisa admitted: Could be, Romeo.
But what does that have to do with the fact that the god your Jesus worshiped is a murderous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick to anger, tyrannical, barbaric, petty god?

As I've pointed out before, God was quite justified in clipping the ears of heathens and perverts etc because they deserved it, but fluffy kittens never hurt anybody!
And as i've also pointed out, God had to CULL OUT nasty tribes from the human race to improve the gene pool, as well as eliminating them for being threats to Israel where he was planning to send Jesus..Smile
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:24 pm
@worldtraveler24,
worldtraveler24 wrote:

Because HE IS GOD and can do as He pleases! That is why!


I agree with you completely, WT. The god of the Bible is, according to you, GOD...and can do as it pleases...which means it can be as murderous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick to anger, tyrannical, barbaric, and petty as it wants.

I'm just wondering why any sane person would worship it.

See...we are more in synch than you think.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:26 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Romeo asked Frank Apisa: When you were in Strategic Air Command during the Cold War years, you were quite prepared to nuke russki cities full of fluffy kittens, so doesn't that make you pretty much of a monster yourself?
Frank Apisa admitted: Could be, Romeo.
But what does that have to do with the fact that the god your Jesus worshiped is a murderous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick to anger, tyrannical, barbaric, petty god?

As I've pointed out before, God was quite justified in clipping the ears of heathens and perverts etc because they deserved it, but fluffy kittens never hurt anybody!
And as i've also pointed out, God had to CULL OUT nasty tribes from the human race to improve the gene pool, as well as eliminating them for being threats to Israel where he was planning to send Jesus..Smile


I agree with you also, Romeo. Your god can be as murderous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick to anger, tyrannical, barbaric, and petty as it wants.

And it is succeeding beyond dreams.

So we are in accord also.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 02:55 pm
Quote:
Frank Apisa said: I agree with you also, Romeo. Your god can be as murderous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick to anger, tyrannical, barbaric, and petty as it wants. And it is succeeding beyond dreams. So we are in accord also.

Good for you mate, seems I was wrong about you, I had you figgered as a soft lefty hand-wringing social worker!
If you'd stayed in SAC you'd have made General by now..Smile
The writing was on the wall for all commie kittens-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/eagleA.png


Go baby, give 'em what for!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/b-47-rato_zpsbb062945.jpg~original
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 03:08 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
You're a small minded intolerant racist. You're the exact opposite of what one would recognise as a spiritual person. Jesus preached Love, you don't. The only thing you consistently preach is how bloody brilliant you are, which is probably why you were referred to a psychiatrist in the first place.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 03:11 pm
For you, Romeo.

Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 04:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Thanks mate, yes the US flyboys are always there when menace threatens..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/King-Kong-1933_zpsf39a1035.jpg~original
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 04:44 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Thanks mate, yes the US flyboys are always there when menace threatens..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/King-Kong-1933_zpsf39a1035.jpg~original


One of our finest hours!
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 04:46 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Lol

(unintentional humor is the very best kind of humor)
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Enaj
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 05:56 pm
@worldtraveler24,
The bible wasn't written in English.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2014 07:41 pm
Quote:
Enaj said: The bible wasn't written in English.

Huh? Everybody knows God is an Englishman!

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