Is Jesus God?

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Romeo said: Some gays are nice friendly people, so in that sense they're okay.
But some gays are militant, loud and noisy, so in that sense they're not so okay.
The same could be said for all sorts of other groups, for example catholics, mormons, jehovah's witnesses, blacks, politicians etc, some are okay and some are not so okay.
Neologist asked: What do you mean by okay. Are they acceptable to God?

Nobody knows the mind of God!
Even Paul said- "My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time" (1 Cor 4:3)
For example God gave humans the gift of medical science, but you JW's throw it back in his face by letting each other die for want of transfusions.
You'll have to ask God if he thinks that's okay and acceptable when you meet him.. Wink

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo fabulist wrote:

Nobody knows the mind of God!

However, it seems that he is telling you a lot of stuff:

Romeo fabulist wrote:

but God doesn't want humans to unlock all its secrets just yet, so he's deliberately turned atheists against religion.

When are you going to cease blurting such crap?

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Romeo said: but God doesn't want humans to unlock all its secrets just yet, so he's deliberately turned atheists against religion.
Timur asked: When are you going to cease blurting such crap?

Yes mate you could be right, maybe atheists don't need Gods help to stay dumb.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Why should atheists need the help of your imaginary friend, a cruel, vengeful entity?

Is he that forces you to imagine such crazy notions?

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@timur,

Romeo fabulist wrote:

Nobody knows the mind of God!

timur wrote:

However, it seems that he is telling you a lot of stuff:

Romeo fabulist wrote:

but God doesn't want humans to unlock all its secrets just yet, so he's deliberately turned atheists against religion.

timur wrote:

When are you going to cease blurting such crap?

I was going to ask him how any god could turn someone already against religion to be, whar? further against religion? Also, which god is he referring to? the god who has blinded the world?

Sometimes, that is, most of the time I am totally amazed by the intellectual quality of his posts. Does that mean he, also, is superior?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

neologist wrote:

It is not necessarily the homosexual inclinations that are sinful. It is the homosexual behavior.

Which, BTW, is sinful even when practiced by heterosexuals!

Ahhh...another one of those things that cause your god to be offended...and caused him to require humans torture and kill his son so that he can stop being offended.

And under any circumstances...I do not feel the inclination to engage in homosexual conduct. It is not a choice with me...I simply am not turned on by men...and the thought is more likely to provoke a turn-off than a turn-on. So your comment does not really apply...it is just something you folk do when you realize the passage is there...and you have to deal with it.

C'mon, Neo...y ou are more than this.

That was not what I meant, Frank.

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@Enaj,

Enaj wrote:

The closed minded never consider anything that is said to them and you fit this to a tee, being that you are so repetitious and offer nothing of substance. I do read you posts, but sadly, it is a waste of time. All I see in your posts is someone who wants and is as disruptive as he can be. Not yet have you said anything of importance.
It would be good if there was a Christian forum here that was taken seriously, where there was good biblical discussions. But doesn't seem to be.

Why? Is your faith unable to withstand question?

True, there are a few atheimbeciles we run into from time to time. But most of the dissent is well considered and worthy of discussion

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Timur said: Why should atheists need the help of your imaginary friend, a cruel, vengeful entity?

Nah mate, Satan does that stuff-
Jesus said "Satan has bound this crippled woman for eighteen years" (Luke 13:16), then he cured her with God's power.. Smile

Better make up whose side you're on, Gods or Old Nicks

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@Romeo Fabulini,

What's the difference between a jealous, murderer, vengeful god like yours and satan?

My side is made up, it's none of those.

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@timur,

You could argue why would an all knowing all powerful god create Satan in the first place. Why didn't he just leave Adam and Eve in paradise and not bother with all the ****?

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Timur asked: What's the difference between a jealous, murderer, vengeful god like yours and satan?

God only clips the ears of those who deserve it, but Satan clips the ear of everybody whether they deserve it or not.
See that pic on the news yesterday of a baby born without eyes?
There's Satans handiwork for you! He can't get under Jesus's radar-
Jesus said:-"He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies" (John 8:44)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/jesus_vs_satan.gif

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@neologist,

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Why? Is your faith unable to withstand question?

True, there are a few atheimbeciles we run into from time to time. But most of the dissent is well considered and worthy of discussion

Of course my faith can withstand question, which is why I'd like to see serious bible discussion. The problem is that there aren't many here whose questions are actual questions, nor their replies actual serious disagreements with scripture to back their views; but just replies with the same old thing such as "hateful god" "monster" its all fables, your "blind" so on and so on.

I have been to many forums over the years that have very serious thorough bible discussion, in which we exchanged serious study of the differing views and beliefs. Except for some of the posts that you offer, I haven't been finding that here.

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@Enaj,

Keep in mind there are about 10+ readers for every post.

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@Enaj,

Enaj wrote:

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Why? Is your faith unable to withstand question?

True, there are a few atheimbeciles we run into from time to time. But most of the dissent is well considered and worthy of discussion

Of course my faith can withstand question, which is why I'd like to see serious bible discussion. The problem is that there aren't many here whose questions are actual questions, nor their replies actual serious disagreements with scripture to back their views; but just replies with the same old thing such as "hateful god" "monster" its all fables, your "blind" so on and so on.

I have been to many forums over the years that have very serious thorough bible discussion, in which we exchanged serious study of the differing views and beliefs. Except for some of the posts that you offer, I haven't been finding that here.

Well how much "serious study" have you given to the people who consider "scripture" to be about on a par with Alice in Wonderland?

Your problem, Enaj...and there IS a problem...is that your mind is shut closed like a steel trap!

In any case, whether the Bible is fiction or truly a description of the GOD that made the entire universe...

...the god described is one of the most loathsome creatures ever described!

That is something you simply have to grok.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

You could argue why would an all knowing all powerful god create Satan in the first place. Why didn't he just leave Adam and Eve in paradise and not bother with all the ****?

It's often assumed that God created Satan, knowing in advance that he would sin, hardly an evidence that "God is love". Why then, would God create such an individual? The answer lies in our attribute of free will. All intelligent creations, including angels, have free will. The one we call 'Satan' chose to rebel at a most inconvenient time for humanity. Perhaps he had some idea he could be successful in derailing God's purpose to his own ends Just don't forget that, in the account of the rebellion, in Genesis 3:15, God foretells the destruction of the serpent, the one called Satan.

BTW, satan is not a name, but a title, meaning 'rebel' or 'resister'.

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Frank Apisa said to Enaj: your mind is shut closed like a steel trap!
...the god described is one of the most loathsome creatures ever described!

But mate, Enaj likes to open-mindedly discuss the Bible, whereas you don't!
Instead you remind me of a brat throwing a tantrum because his dad won't let him have his own way and screaming- "I HATE YOU, YOU'RE A MONSTER!" blah blah.. Wink

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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Frank Apisa said to Enaj: your mind is shut closed like a steel trap!
...the god described is one of the most loathsome creatures ever described!

But mate, Enaj likes to open-mindedly discuss the Bible, whereas you don't!
Instead you remind me of a brat throwing a tantrum because his dad won't let him have his own way and screaming- "I HATE YOU, YOU'RE A MONSTER!" blah blah..

I am willing to discuss the Bible in a more open-minded way than either Enaj or you, Romeo.

You two seem to want to insist it contains truths about REALITY...and about whether or not there is a god involved in REALITY...and to tell us what the god is like...what pleases the god and what offends it.

I am willing to discuss that...and the fact that almost everything the Bible says about REALITY...and about the existence of a god...and about the nature of any that exists...MAY BE FICTION.

That is open-mindedness.

In the meantime...considering the tone of most of your silly posts, Romeo...it probably it probably is not your best move to call others a brat throwing a tantrum! Wink

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Perhaps Frank thinks that by posting in bold, his guess will become an assertion

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Perhaps Frank thinks that by posting in bold, his guess will become an assertion

I have mentioned that I am using bold the way some use color...to differentiate my comments from the comment to which I am responding.

If I am going to make assertions...I will label them assertions.

This sentence of yours, Neo...was inane...not funny.

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@Frank Apisa,

Nyah

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