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2 12/2 NM cables in one hole through top plate into attic cellulose

 
 
pex006
 
Reply Thu 11 Jul, 2013 10:39 pm
Hi I have recently found a 12/2 cable running in my return air duct that is just connected with wire caps and not in a box. Someone who remodeled the house moved the receptacle a foot to the left and just wire nutted the wires that used to go into the old recptacle and pushed them back into the return duct. The air return duct is a stud bay being used as a return air duct that goes down into the lower floor joists. I have a small stud bay directly to the side with a two gang switchbox. This is were the cable originates from and then travels through a hole in the stud and into the air retun stud bay where the put the new recptcle, then a foot down the line it is junctioned with the wire nuts then continues up a stud and out the top of the bay into the attic. I would like to bypass the air return by pulling the cable back into the neighboring bay that has a 2 gang switchbox and put the receptacle there. Then cut the cable that comes out of the top of the air retun duct and remove that unused cable out of the return if possible. I would then fish a cable down the switchbox studbay to the receptacle and junction the the circuit in the attic. I have found where the cables exit the switchbox studbay and one of the holes has room for one more cable to slide in. Is it ok to put (2) 12/2 cables that are on seperate circuits through the same hole in the top plate if it will go up into/through cellulose insulation? They will go seperate ways immediatley after exiting the hole in the toplate.
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Placid Carcass
 
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Reply Sat 13 Jul, 2013 11:15 pm
@pex006,
Yes you absolutely can do this. Just make sure that the circuit you are tapping from for this new receptacle isn't already loaded up to it maximum number of receptacles. This usually means 80% of breaker or fuse size. So on a 15 amp circuit you could have some mixture of lights and receptacles that totals 12, as each on is considered to use 1 amp.

Good luck.
pex006
 
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Reply Sun 14 Jul, 2013 11:34 am
Thanks.
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pex006
 
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Reply Sun 14 Jul, 2013 08:06 pm
@Placid Carcass,
One more question. Do the two cables have to still have some wiggle room or is it ok that they are snug together. I have no trouble sliding the new cable in and back out by the other cable in the hole already, but they pretty much fill the hole completely when next to each other.
Placid Carcass
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jul, 2013 01:50 pm
@pex006,
Yes with the load that will be on them, it should be fine. If they slide freely through the hole without any resistance, that is.

The general rule of thumb is 2 12/2 cables through a 1/2" hole.

as i said though, with the size of max load through each of the cables going through a snugger hole in one spot. i can't see it creating a hot spot or anything of the like.
pex006
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jul, 2013 02:07 am
@Placid Carcass,
Thanks. I measured the hole at between 5/8 and 3/4 inch.
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Placid Carcass
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jul, 2013 05:01 pm
Even better than, gl with your project.
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