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Paula Dean Fired By Food Network Over Racial Slur

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 08:10 am
@hawkeye10,
Right now, there are supporters of Deen who are showing it by ordering her products and booking her cruise. It remains to be seen whether that will be sustained for any length of time, or whether this is a brief flurry of activity. If it seems to be sustained, other companies might want to hook-up with her in the future, or some of her past business partners might resume their contracts with her. It will depend on the long-term viability of her brand once all the media hype blows over. And it will also depend on what Deen does next.

Deen was a somewhat polarizing figure before any of the current controversy because of the high sugar/high fat foods she promoted and cooked up, and built her reputation on. So her critics have always been as outspoken as her fans, and her morality was always an undercurrent--she was gleefully promoting unhealthy eating, for her own profit, to a populace already plagued with an epidemic of obesity and type 2 diabetes. That there were people willing to buy what she was selling, doesn't change the fact that she was peddling a questionable product in terms of public health.

And, when she finally revealed her own type 2 diabetes, which she had kept hidden, only because she had inked a very lucrative deal to hawk a new diabetes drug, suspicions about her morality grew quite loud and her personal trustworthiness, and that of her brand, took quite a hit. This time, she not only confirmed what her critics had been saying about her and her cooking, she had also deceived the public, and her fans, becoming honest only when she got a hefty paycheck for doing so--and that check came from a company that profits from the negative health consequences of the product she had built her empire on.

So there have always been questions about Deen's morality in terms of her business practices and what she was promoting and selling. And there were always people who looked past her sunny smile, folksy manner, and packaged warmth, and saw nasty-looking insects squirming in that cake she was mixing up for public consumption. And this latest scandal is just the icing on that cake--icing so heavy, that it's caused her insubstantial, already insect-ridden, cake to collapse.

And, if Deen wants to rise from the ashes, and move back up in the world of successful business, she's going to have to demonstrate some changed morality--hollow apologies aren't enough, she's really got to clean up her act. And, a good place for her to start, would be for her to speak out against the sort of hostile and discriminatory workplace environments and conditions that she allowed to go on in her restaurants, that led to that lawsuit against her and her brother--and vow to work toward eliminating them everywhere. She may eventually wind up doing that, if she ever does see the light, and that would be the most sincere apology she could make. Jesse Jackson has indicated he'd back her in something like that, and that sort of alliance is the sort of thing that could help her move beyond all of this, in terms of both her personal and future business growth.

BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 08:28 am
@cicerone imposter,
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Didn't you know that "private lawyers" bring cases up to the Supreme Court?


Of course however that does not imply that the federal government is bringing charges only that a private party is using the federal courts under federal laws.

There are people that earn their living by filing civil nuisance suits under Federal laws hoping that the sue parties will settle instead of taking the more expense road of fighting the suits.

Firefly always keep trying to get away with leaving a false impression when ever possible such as her federal charges statement that I been addressing.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 08:41 am
@BillRM,
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Firefly always keep trying to get away with leaving a false impression when ever possible

Cut the crap. What Deen is involved in, in federal court, is hardly a "nuisance suit"--and the seriousness of the allegations, and of her admissions, is already reflected in the severe consequences she is now suffering.

You're the one who is trying to create the false impressions with your dumbed-down strawman arguments.

You and Deen not only have bigotry in common, you both are aversive to being honest.

BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 08:43 am
@firefly,
Her cooking style not being health by current medical thinking is kind of beside the point as the large numbers of people who enjoy that cooking style have a right to do so.

We are addressing the issue of the moral and PC police trying to hound her off the public stage for sins that are decades in her past that she had apologized for and by so doing denying her large fans base the right to view her cooking shows.

I am fairly sure at least from the public reaction both from whites and blacks to date the I am not alone in hating how this society had allow a small self appointed moral police powers far out of their numbers to control who can be allow to be in the public square and who can make a living by being there.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/new-paula-deen-book-_n_3510472.html

NEW YORK — Paula Deen has been dropped by the Food Network and Wal-Mart, but book-buyers are standing by her.

As of Thursday morning, "Paula Deen's New Testament: 250 Recipes, All Lightened Up," ranked No. 1 on Amazon.com. The book is scheduled for October. Another Deen book, "Paula Deen's Southern Cooking Bible," was at No. 13. Several other Deen books were out of stock.


BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 08:53 am
@firefly,
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Cut the crap. What Deen is involved in, in federal court, is hardly a "nuisance suit"--and the seriousness of the allegations, and of her admissions, is already reflected in the severe consequences she is now suffering.


Would you care for me to post example after example of how the federal courts and the federal laws had been used to file nuisance suits/blackmail suits?

Just because some case is in the federal courts does not mean that it have any merit of any kind.

I know you wish to claim otherwise but that is just too damn bad as anyone can file a suit under federal laws with or without having merit.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 08:58 am
@BillRM,
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We are addressing the issue of the moral and PC police trying to hound her off the public stage for sins that are decades in her past that she had apologized for and by so doing denying her large fans base the right to view her cooking shows.

That's your phony strawman argument.

Those "sins" aren't in her past, they are alive and well in the restauants she currently operates with her brother--they've admitted to them.

Why should a network consider only her fans, but fail to consider those who find this woman's attitudes, and the workplace environments she maintains, to be offensive?

So, BiillRM, since you are such a strong Deen supportor, how many Deen products, and Deen-endorsed products, do you currently have in your home? How regularly did you watch her Food Network show? What did you enjoy about it? Are you booked for her cruise? Placed more recent orders for her cookbooks?
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:07 am
@BillRM,
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Would you care for me to post example after example of how the federal courts and the federal laws had been used to file nuisance suits/blackmail suits?

No, I'm not interested in encouraging another of your irrelevant tangents.

If you're too dumb to realize that the lawsuit against Deen and her brother isn't a "nuisance suit", that's your problem. And the consequences to Deen, from her own admissions in this lawsuit, could hardly be considered "a nuisance"--her business empire has crumbled beneath her.

You and Deen continue to share bigotry and an aversion to honesty.

You seem to think that someone's morality in their business practices shouldn't be a factor to consider when you decide whether to buy their product and support them.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:11 am
@firefly,
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Those "sins" aren't in her past, they are alive and well in the restauants she currently operates with her brother--they've admitted to them.


That is the claim before the court made by someone who have millions on the line.

It is not a proven claim at this time but you never had have a problem taking someone livelihood away from them first and then having a court rule on th4t matter long afterward now do you Firefly?

Just the charges should be good enough in your opinion!!!!!!

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Why should a network consider only her fans, but fail to consider those who find this woman's attitudes, and the workplace environments she maintains, to be offensive?


Maybe because those people are or was the network customers by the hundred of thousands and the moral police are not for the most part?


Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:13 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
You can be a bigot safety when it come to an entire area and all the people in it if it involved the south at least.


Listen, dipshit, this is what you wrote. Either you are accusing all the people of the south of bigotry ("all the people in it") or your use of English is even more inept than usual. What f*cking idiot.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:14 am
@BillRM,
She's taking her own "livelihood" away by being an bigot and hypocrite.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:19 am
@cicerone imposter,
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She's taking her own "livelihood" away by being an bigot and hypocrite.


So you claims too bad that is happening even those millions of your fellow citizens disagree with that opinion.

Of course the self appointed moral and PC police should have the power to overrule those millions of people.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:19 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
You can be a bigot safety when it come to an entire area and all the people in it if it involved the south at least.


Listen, dipshit, this is what you wrote. Either you are accusing all the people of the south of bigotry ("all the people in it") or your use of English is even more inept than usual. What f*cking idiot.


How in the hell is my stating that the moral police PC police are allowing the people of the south to be label as racists as a whole by bigots is agreeing that such happen to be true?????????
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:20 am
@BillRM,
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That is the claim before the court made by someone who have millions on the line.

It is not a proven claim at this time but you never had have a problem taking someone livelihood away from them first and then having a court rule on th4t matter long afterward now do you Firefly?

Just the charges should be good enough in your opinion!!!!!!


She and her brother admitted to those charges you asshole! That's why this furor broke out after she and her brother gave sworn depositions in that suit, and not when the lawsuit was first filed.

Go right on proving how dumb you are...I won't stop you. Laughing

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:21 am
@BillRM,
It doesn't matter that "citizens disagree" with my opinion. She's already lost some hefty contracts, and she's been revealed for who she is to the general public that cares about bigotry and hypocrisy. Some people "like you" will continue to defend her, because of your own personal racial bigotry.

That's totally understandable. You're a ****'n dork. TNCFS
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:27 am
@cicerone imposter,
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She's taking her own "livelihood" away by being an bigot and hypocrite.

BillRM, also a bigot and hypocrite, refuses to understand that, or he's just too dumb to understand that.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:29 am
@cicerone imposter,
other than this chick who is looking for a payday who has come forward to say that PD acted like a black hater or a woman hater around them? shouldn't we have a trial before we condemn the woman? maybe with some evidence?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:30 am
@cicerone imposter,
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It doesn't matter that "citizens disagree" with my opinion. She's already lost some hefty contracts, and she's been revealed for who she is to the general public that cares about bigotry and hypocrisy. Some people "like you" will continue to defend her, because of your own personal racial bigotry.


That is why her new book is the number one book on Amazon.

Most be millions and millions KKK members both white and black to get those numbers of sales.

The public clearly is disagreeing with your position in mass it is private companies that fear the moral/pc police that is causing her harm that is kind of similar as how a small group could ruin the careers of Americans actors in the 1950s by placing them on a blacklist and the movies companies did not have the nerve to tell the 1950s blacklisters to go to hell.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:32 am
@hawkeye10,
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other than this chick who is looking for a payday who has come forward to say that PD acted like a black hater or a woman hater around them? shouldn't we have a trial before we condemn the woman? maybe with some evidence?


No trial needed and if there is one and she is clear Firefly would then state that it outcome in meaningless similar to when two NYC cops was clear of rapes charges.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:35 am
@BillRM,
if you are a white person and you say nigger losing your livelihood is the appropriate punishment according to liberals. policing conversations and sanitizing minds is the new "doing God's work".
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2013 09:36 am
@hawkeye10,
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shouldn't we have a trial before we condemn the woman? maybe with some evidence?

I'll say to you what I said to BillRM...

She and her brother admitted to those charges you asshole! That's why this furor broke out after she and her brother gave sworn depositions in that suit, and not when the lawsuit was first filed.

Go right on proving how dumb you are...I won't stop you. Laughing

It might be a refreshing change if you actually bothered to inform yourself before voicing an opinion. Deen and her brother supplied the evidence in that lawsuit--in their own admissions, in their sworn depositions.

The last thing that Deen and her brother should do is allow this lawsuit to go to a verdict--they've already hung themselves.


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