What is the contradiction if you don't mind me asking ?
I'm not sure if there is a contradiction, Fil. You seem to be saying our space is expanding within some other sort of space, and I merely assert there's no need for that other one
What other means of motion is there that do not require dimensions ?
Our expansion has
dimension, it's within, relative to itself. But now I feel I'm stumbling into the excessively metaphysical. In simple terms it's growing compared to how it was
an axis like X,Y or Z...there is no semantic problem whatsoever, in fact Newton classic physics is quite enough for the purpose !
Previous remarks suggest what you're proposing is that an infinite space contains a finite amount of matter, in sort of "ball" we presently call Universe, underestimating its size by virtue of its curvature. Okay could be, but my view is simpler and easier to explain
The expression "outside space" is purely metaphoric and cynical once I am precisely implying there is nothing outside it, that WAS THE POINT !
Sorry, yes, metaphor does escape me. Like I had said, at my advanced age I read almost everything literally. But til now I had assumed you had meant there is
something outside it, that is, space
Alas alack you don't make the effort.
Alas maybe I am incapable of so doing
And yes you dribble in confusion on what I say.
You never seam to distinguish when I use a metaphor precisely to show how absurd is the claim...
I presume you mean my claim. Yes, in your mind's eye you see the Universe as a sort of ball and so if it's growing then it must be growing with respect to something else, I suppose it's that metaphorical space
whatever is the final medium, Universe, Multiverse, or "Pluriverse", the final stage cannot move and accounts for all other stages on which movement is apparent.
You might have written this while I was still editing, in which case I apologize profusely. Somewhere above I had addressed this "movement"
You guys seam to act like nothingness (on which space is supposed to expand) was in fact something
I had tried really hard
not to convey that notion. But now we appear to be back to Square One, where neither of us seems to understand the other
but bottom line you just haven't though it through very well.
Could be. But [/b]HELP PLEASEsomebody else who does understand