@Setanta,
Quote:We have coinage from Alexander's reign--there is coinage from the reign of Philip portraying Alexander. Many cities were named for him, including the city in Egypt which still bears his name. We have the evidence of the Hellenistic kingdoms which arose immediately after his death. Certainly, there is no basis for much of what it is claimed he did, and i have no problem with acknowledging that. His claim to be descended from Homeric heroes, which he attempted to reinforce by going to the oasis at Siwa (so it is said) should certainly be dismissed out of hand.
Whatever others here may have said, my point is that there is no contemporary evidence for Jeebus. No cities named for him, no coinage, no abundant evidence for the actions of his successors, as is the case f0r Alexander. Joe's argument is a non-starter.
The country "El Salvador" is named that way in honor of "Jesus the savior", so what the heck are you talking about?
The comparison of Yeshu (Jesus) with Alexander the Great is stupid. One was a conqueror, a guy with thousands and thousands of "followers", who traveled to different lands and imposed a new way of government.
Yeshu was a dude with a small group of followers, not conquering neither imposing any way of life or government.
The whole discussions are going to the ridiculous, arguing that the writings about Yeshu didn't become a reality up to the third century.
Those writings are clearly Greek translations from Hebrew originals. There is no way for a fisherman like Peter to write so good Greek letters without proper education in that language. Josephus himself recognized that for him the task of learning how to write in Greek was very difficult.
Still, throwing away the gospels, the letters of the apostles, the words of Josephus, etc. no one in the world can put in doubt the
Tractate Sanhedrin 43a.
This record does come from the first century of this current era, and it has not been influenced, modified, or similar; and it mentions Yeshu as a sorcerer who incited Israel to apostasy. The penalty was death sentence to be fulfilled on the eve of Passover.
This is a clear and solid evidence that debunks the whole crap many posters have wrote about Yeshu as a never existed human being on earth.
Of course, these fanatics will ignore Tractate Sanhedrin 43a, because their positions are in complete ridiculous in front of such strong evidential fact.
