I think your point is well taken.
I am persuaded there was a single individual who recognized the need for a departure from the vengeful, barbaric dictates of what would become "The Old Testament"...and who preached in that direction.
Quote:I think your point is well taken.
You finally understood one of my points???
Quote:I am persuaded there was a single individual who recognized the need for a departure from the vengeful, barbaric dictates of what would become "The Old Testament"...and who preached in that direction.
It's more complicated than that IMO. It's easy to load JC with an anti-Torah agenda but that may not have been his aim. Jesus is not in it to reform Judaism or to found Christianity. That's what he ended up doing, not what he wanted to do. He wanted to usher in the Kingdom of God. Like any good messiah would...
As I see him, he became at some point convinced he was the Messiah. He starts doing what is required of a Messiah for instance, like entering Jerusalem on a donkey, to recall or parrot Zechariah 9:9 (Rejoice, Daughter Zion! Shout, Daughter Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and victorious, lowly and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.)
A Messiah does not preach in some reformist direction... He is not writing sermons and letters, hence the lack of written trace of JC. A Messiah fights to change the world. That's the concept.
It was not likely written that early, according to numbers of scholars. And it certainly does not claim to be the work of a brother, anyway
It seems to me that Jesus became more of a superhero as the gospels progressed.
The earliest mention of the putative mention of Jesus by Flavius Josephus was by Eusebius at the beginning of the fourth century. It is significant that Origen mentions no such passage, even though he was born a century after Flavius Josephus died.
Book 1, Chapter 47
I would like to say to Celsus, who represents the Jew as accepting somehow John as a Baptist, who baptized Jesus, that the existence of John the Baptist,baptizing for the remission of sins, is related by one who lived no great length of time after John and Jesus. For in the 18th book of his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus bears witness to John as having been a Baptist, and as promising purification to those who underwent the rite. Now this writer, although not believing in Jesus as the Christ, in seeking after the cause of the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple, whereas he ought to have said that the conspiracy against Jesus was the cause of these calamities befalling the people, since they put to death Christ, who was a prophet, says nevertheless— being, although against his will, not far from the truth— that these disasters happened to the Jews as a punishment for the death of James the Just, who was a brother of Jesus (called Christ)