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Did Jesus Actually Exist?

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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:26 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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.if I say I do not know something...I honestly do not know it.


You must know "that something to one degree or another even though what you think of it may be incorrect.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:27 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
.if I say I do not know something...I honestly do not know it.


You must know "that something to one degree or another even though what you think of it may be incorrect.


Would you mind trying that again in coherent English?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Do you think that this is a contradiction, or would you say you are unsure as to whether you think it is or is not?

reasoning logic wrote:
I think you may have a point Spades.

Frank Apisa wrote:
Nice try!




Now worries Frank...I took care of it...

Do you think that this is a contradiction, or would you say you are unsure as to whether you think it is or is not?

Frank Apisa wrote:
It is not a contradiction.

Got it! So you are not unsure...thanks Frank...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:29 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Do you think that this is a contradiction, or would you say you are unsure as to whether you think it is or is not?

reasoing logic wrote:
I think you may have a point Spades.

Frank Apisa wrote:
Nice try!




Now worries Frank...I took care of it...

Got it! So you are not unsure...thanks Frank...


Does that mean anything?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:30 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Would you mind trying that again in coherent English?


Can you agree that we all fail at times to understanding sentences even though words are logically stung together to make coherent sentences?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:32 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
Would you mind trying that again in coherent English?


Can you agree that we all fail at times to understanding sentences even though words are logically stung together to make coherent sentences?


Yup.

Can you agree that at times YOU write sentences that are incomprehensible?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:

Can you agree that at times YOU write sentences that are incomprehensible?


No Frank I am an absolutist in my work except when I am proven wrong. Rolling Eyes I understand at least half of what I write.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:37 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:

Can you agree that at times YOU write sentences that are incomprehensible?


No Frank I am an absolutist in my work except when I am proven wrong. Rolling Eyes I understand at least half of what I write.


That is much less than I understand of what you write...so I am going to ASSUME you were trying for a joke.

But the particular sentence (or fragment) that I questioned is not part of the part I understand.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:40 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Yup! You said it does not mean you know nothing...Can you explain to me how your answer is apart of how you could or could not know nothing or anything? Or how you can be unsure? Rather than an example of how you would have to know what you think you do, in order to not be unsure...

Please ask me to clarify, if that was not clear enough...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:48 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Yup! You said it does not mean you know nothing...Can you explain to me how your answer is apart of how you could or could not know nothing or anything? Or how you can be unsure? Rather than an example of how you would have to know what you think you do, in order to not be unsure...

Please ask me to clarify, if that was not clear enough...


That was not clear enough. Please clarify.

Try asking just one question...rather than a series...a single question that actually asks something rather than makes a statement disguised as a question.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:49 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
Please ask me to clarify, if that was not clear enough...


If you were to share your peace pipe with frank, I think he would be able to relate with you a little more.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 07:56 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
Please ask me to clarify, if that was not clear enough...


If you were to share your peace pipe with frank, I think he would be able to relate with you a little more.


I like Spade...and I like you, RL.

I honestly have some trouble understanding what Spade is asking...because he includes so many elements in his questions...and he tends to do his arguments in question form.

I really want to be "at peace" with both of yez.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2013 08:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OK...Your question...

Quote:
Does that mean anything?

Yes, it does mean something...You have said you are unsure, but it does not mean that you know nothing...What is an example of something you do not know, and why do you think you know nothing about a notion you are unsure of? (I am interested to hear you either say "I don't know" or an explanation of how you could not know anything about this thing you say you do not...

Even if you can explain why or how you think you know a certain notion can not be known...anything but an "I don't know"...that tells me that it is not necessarily unknown, but just your own thinking, like others think they know what it is, even if they do not...

(Ask me to clarify if you would like me too)

izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 01:21 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:
(Btw, there's no magic trick to moving a corpse to another location.)


You sound like you're talking from experience, we've all been there.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 02:56 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

OK...Your question...

Quote:
Does that mean anything?

Yes, it does mean something...You have said you are unsure, but it does not mean that you know nothing...What is an example of something you do not know, and why do you think you know nothing about a notion you are unsure of? (I am interested to hear you either say "I don't know" or an explanation of how you could not know anything about this thing you say you do not...

Even if you can explain why or how you think you know a certain notion can not be known...anything but an "I don't know"...that tells me that it is not necessarily unknown, but just your own thinking, like others think they know what it is, even if they do not...

(Ask me to clarify if you would like me too)




I do not know if there is a GOD or not.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 03:23 am
@Frank Apisa,
Good morning Frank!

Thanks for your honest answer Frank...I think I understand your perspective more...and more...each time we do engage...and I do thank you for this time you spend with me...and I like you too!!

I have an idea of what I personally think you may view any potential Gods...If any Gods had or do exist...opposed to not...but I can easily be incorrect, since it is not what I personally think...and I am not positive that this is how you see things if any potential Gods had, or do exist...opposed to non-existence...

Now...When you say that you are unsure...Do you think that you could personally explain why you say you do not know, or, Do you think that you can not personally explain why you say you do not know?....(As in, I have "no idea" why I am unsure...Or, as in, I have an idea why I am unsure)...Since you claim you are unsure...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 03:31 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Good morning Frank!

Thanks for your honest answer Frank...I think I understand your perspective more...and more...each time we do engage...and I do thank you for this time you spend with me...and I like you too!!

I have an idea of how you may view any potential Gods...If any Gods had or do exist...opposed to not...but I can easily be incorrect, since it is not what I personally think...and I am not positive that this is how you see things if any potential Gods had, or do exist...opposed to non-existence...

Now...When you say that you are unsure...Do you think that you could personally explain why you say you do not know, or, Do you think that you can not personally explain why you say you do not know?....(As in, I have "no idea" why I am unsure...Or, as in, I know why I am unsure)...Since you claim you are unsure...


I do not know the stuff I do not know...because I do not know it, Spade. How do you explain that?

I do not know if there are any living beings on any planets in orbit around the nearest three stars to Sol...because I simply do not know it.

I do not know the exact amount of water in the Pacific Ocean in liters...because I simply do not know it.

I do not know your real name...because I simply do not know it.

I do not know which team will win the Super Bowl at the end of this next season...because I simply do not know it.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 03:51 am
@Frank Apisa,
Sounds like you are saying that you think you can personally explain why you do not know, and it is because you think you can not explain why you think you do not know? Or how you could possibly know...Or how anyone else could think that they actually can...

Does this sound accurate to you?

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 03:57 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Sounds like you are saying that you think you can personally explain why you do not know, and it is because you think you can not explain why you think you do not know? Or how you could possibly know...Or how anyone else could think that they actually can...

Does this sound accurate to you?




I stand by what I actually wrote.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 04:27 am
@Frank Apisa,
Cool...that works for me...You do not know the stuff you do not know...because you do not know it...

One of these days I am hopeful we can come to whether or not you do not know the stuff you do not know, because you do not know it, and do not know you think this, are not sure of this or are sure of this...or do not think you know you think this...

But I will be honest that I do have a thought in my mind about it...which could be incorrect...for whatever it is worth...

See ya around Frank...

Thank you!

P.S. We do not have to always engage in these topics...I would love to discuss golf if you are ever interested...
 

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