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Correct wording in a sentence

 
 
jcooper
 
Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 03:52 am
Can I say "I will write the director" or should I say "I will write to the director"
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:05 am
@jcooper,
I will write to the director and then go down the pub.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 10:52 am
@jcooper,
The 2d is more explicit Jc but the 1st is collo; either is okay
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contrex
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 11:37 am
jcooper, the answer to your question depends on whether you wish to write in United States English or not. In US English they write someone. Elsewhere we write to someone.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 01:28 pm
@jcooper,
The second example is the best one. Although the first sentence is correct also.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 01:45 pm
I was just mulling over the phrase "try and", as in "I will try and be there tomorrow". We use it all the time, and it just doesn't make sense. "I will try to be there tomorrow" works.

We hear "I will write him tomorrow" often enough, but it just doesn't make sense. "I will write to him" does.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 03:32 pm
@roger,
It stems from the habit of dropping prepositions when we speak. Some people think that they make sentences wordy and are unnecessary, but the habit can make written sentences ambiguous.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 11:36 pm
@roger,
There is just so much damn piffle in this thread.

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I was just mulling over the phrase "try and", as in "I will try and be there tomorrow". We use it all the time, and it just doesn't make sense. "I will try to be there tomorrow" works.


No, Roger, you were not mulling it over. You are simply repeating another silly old canard that has led you to stop thinking. You use it all the time precisely because it does make sense. Speakers of a language don't use nonsensical structures.

One writer has remarked on those that repeat this nonsense about 'try and'; "This proves nothing but the lengths to which the wrongheaded will go to make nonexistent points" [Copperud 1980]

'try and' has been around since the 17th century. It has been used by Jane Austen, Mark Twain, Andy Rooney, Herman Melville, EB White, F Scott Fitzgerald, and numerous other writers.

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We hear "I will write him tomorrow" often enough, but it just doesn't make sense. "I will write to him" does.


If the first doesn't make sense then how is it that you were able to write it?

You suggest we need 'to', that we can't do without it. Do you purpose that we write,

"I will write to him a letter tomorrow" ?
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 11:45 pm
@contrex,
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Elsewhere we write to someone.


Do you,

Write to someone a letter ?

Do you

Write to John an email ?

Do you

Write to her a note ?


JTT
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 11:54 pm
@jcooper,
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Can I say "I will write the director" or should I say "I will write to the director"


You can say/write either, JCooper, and you can feel completely confident that you are following the rules of English grammar.

There are quite a few verbs in English, 'write' is one of them, where there can be a direct and an indirect object. For some, like 'write', it isn't obligatory to have both; we can drop the understood indirect object.

I will write the director [a letter/a note/an email].

?? I will write to the director [a letter/a note/an email]. ??

When we switch the positioning, putting the indirect object first, 'to' becomes obligatory.

I will write a letter/a note/an email to the director.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 09:11 am
@jcooper,
Such a statement is contextual, and inference is understood.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 10:26 am
@cicerone imposter,
All statements are contextual, CI. Some more than others.

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and inference is understood.


What does this mean?
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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 11:37 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
Elsewhere we write to someone.


Do you,

Write to someone a letter ?

Do you

Write to John an email ?

Do you

Write to her a note ?





I was clearly (to a person of normal intelligence) responding to the original question, which I shall here quote:

Can I say "I will write the director" or should I say "I will write to the director".

Why you wrote that stupid bollocks I cannot imagine.

contrex
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 11:38 am
JTT answers a different question from the one asked. Jerkwad.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 11:56 am
@JTT,
"to" is not obligatory. Where did you learn English? A complete sentence only has to have a verb and a noun.

That's basic English.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 12:13 pm
@contrex,
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I was clearly (to a person of normal intelligence) responding to the original question, which I shall here quote:

Can I say "I will write the director" or should I say "I will write to the director".

Why you wrote that stupid bollocks I cannot imagine.


The same question I asked of you in the post to which you replied but failed to addressed, applies to the following too , Contrex.

Do you say "I will write to the director a letter" ?

Do you say "I will write to him a letter" ?

Do you say "I will write to her a note" ?

neologist
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 12:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
"to" is not obligatory. Where did you learn English? A complete sentence only has to have a verb and a noun. That's basic English.
Yes. But Cooper's sentence contains an object.

Should he simply say: I will write."?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 12:30 pm
@neologist,
That is contextual; that kind of sentence usually follows why that completes what was said before.

JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 12:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
"to" is not obligatory.


Don't tell me, CI. I know that. That's what I've described. Tell Roger, Contrex, ... .
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neologist
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2013 12:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Just pullin yer chain, CI
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