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Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 02:13 am
@Baldimo,
NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get it though your THICK head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Conscientious" people are concerned for the innocent in our society and would like guns more regulated. How is that harsh??????

HARSH is not giving a damned **** about the innocent in all of these teen suicides and random mass shootings.

So if you are a crazy nut you should not be sold guns and if you are a young kid you should not have access to guns also.

If you are concerned that you are an unstable individual then you have more problems than your gun collection and I would seek help.

RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 03:13 am
David Harris Dunaway, Criminally Insane Man, Had 36 Guns, 4,269 Rounds Of Ammo In Van: Police
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/david-harris-dunaway_n_4532486.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1541554/thumbs/n-DAVID-HARRIS-DUNAWAY-large570.jpg

THIS happened TODAY!!!!

And who sold this freak these guns?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 03:21 am
@parados,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

parados wrote:

Quote:
NO guns were in use during the events of 9/11/1
nor the big event of Aug. 6th, 1945.

So your argument is we should allow more box cutters on planes. [????]
We realize that David. You make no sense.

parados wrote:
Box cutters were used on 9/11. After that box cutters were banned on planes.
Do you agree or disagree that banning weapons make us safer?
I DISAGREE. Legally dis-arming the public
creates an un-safe condition. Only criminals wud have guns.

Only the innocent potential future victims
wud be stupid enuf to comply with such a ban, not criminals.
One 's life depends on violating it.
( If all of the passengers had been well-armed on 9/11/1,
then it'd have been IMPOSSIBLE for the Moslems to hi jack those planes.
Thay DEPENDED upon gun control to have DISARMED their victims first
.
)


Less important bans were violated, with contempt, on a long-term basis
such as the ban on alcohol in the 1920s and the ban on marijuana now.
I don t use illegal drugs because I don t want them, but I love and admire
the robust American spirit of SPITTING in the face of government's USURPATION of power,
its rape of the 1Oth Amendment,
that results in the fiction that government has jurisdiction
to decide what the citizens have a right to ingest. Even the King
of England did not allege that he had such authority. Implicitly,
it was acknowledged that government had no such authority
when the 18th Amendment was enacted Prohibiting alcohol.
After that, jurisdiction qua drugs was FAKED,
without an amendment of the Constitution.
The foundation of the War on Drugs is a hoax.
So also is the fony claim of any jurisdiction to subvert
a citizen 's right to freedom of self-defense.
As the 7th US Circuit Court of Appeals put it
in Moore v. Madigan the place where the citizen
has a right to defend himself is the place where he is attacked.
Applying "equal protection of the laws" impartially,
that includes every citizen of any age who might need to defend himself.

Perhaps Mr. Parados remembers the USSC case of Browder v. Gayle
which held that denial of equal protection of the laws for even
a few moments of seating on a public bus was Constitutionally INTOLERABLE
qua equal protection of the laws.
What does that tell us about government discrimination
qua the right to effectively defend your LIFE from predatory violence??
Tell us, Mr. Parados: in your opinion, what wud Rosa Parks deem
MORE IMPORTANT?? The right to defend herself from being
torn apart by animals (or criminal violence?) or a few moments
of seating on a public bus????

Do u believe that young people have NO RIGHT to defend their lives??
Thay must wait until thay reach voting age to have a right to defend their lives???
I guess that in your opinion, 7 year old Noah Yates (because of his youth)
had no right to grab a weapon to prevent himself from being dragged
to his death in a bath tub??? Too young to LEGALLY fight back with a gun,
if he cud snatch one up from somewhere or anywhere?
Is that what the 2nd Amendment says, Mr. Parados, in its age limitation??

Answering your question, sir, as explicitly as I can:
I believe that American citizens shud wear their seatbelts and their guns, for better safety.





David
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 03:23 am
Father Kills 2 Daughters In Arizona Home, Police Say
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/alejandro-gallardo-kills-daughters_n_4530631.html

His 8 and 6 year old daughters should have had their own guns...

Unfortunately, this is the type of gun violence that a regulation will probably not prevent but regulations do save lives in many other instances....
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 03:33 am
@RexRed,
When I was growing up in Arizona,
if MY father had tried to take me out,
he 'd have gotten 5 rounds of .38 slugs put into him,
if I cud possibly line up the shots. ( That was before I upgraded to a .44 ).





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 03:38 am
@RexRed,
IF a parent decides to wipe out his family,
as has happened occasionally, then the choice to do so
probably does not depend upon possession of a gun.

Hammers or fire have been used. Anyone can have an opinion
regarding what is better. Parents did not wait until guns were invented
to begin killing their families.

Every predatory event is a contest of power.

The IMPORTANT thing is that victims need
to be sufficiently well-armed to control the predatory situation.
The penalty for failure to DO that is death, in the discretion of the predator.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 04:17 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO GIVE UP YOUR GUNS
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get it though your THICK head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not yet,
as a matter of deceptive strategy,
like Hitler promising peace if he got the Sudetenland.
We are not dum enuf to fall for that again, Rex,
no matter HOW MANY exclamation marks u put there.
We still know its not true; as fony as a $7 bill.



RexRed wrote:
"Conscientious" people are concerned for the innocent in our society
and would like guns more regulated. How is that harsh??????
The innocent in our society shud be ARMED in their own defense.
It is HARSH on the future victims
by dis-arming them (if thay are stupid enuf to allow that)
thereby making violent crime SAFER for the criminal predators on-the-job.
Ideally, the victims will be armed well enuf to kill the predators,
as long as thay DISREGARD your advice, Rex.
Supporters of gun control are de facto partners of violent criminals.



RexRed wrote:
HARSH is not giving a damned **** about the innocent
in all of these teen suicides and random mass shootings.
Many of the teenaged alleged "suicides" were masturbatory accidents (hangings).
In any event, anyone has the RIGHT to end his human life at a time of his choosing,
whether u like it or not.
People did not wait until guns were invented
to begin committing suicide. If YOU decided to commit suicide,
wud YOU be dissuaded by the absence of a gun?? Tell us.



RexRed wrote:
So if you are a crazy nut you should not be sold guns
and if you are a young kid you should not have access to guns also.
Maybe u are just PRETENDING, faking that people cannot
MAKE their own guns??
As thay 've done by hand for centuries before electric tools were available???

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parados
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 12:12 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Leave it to David to argue that firing guns on planes makes them less likely to crash.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 12:17 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Leave it to David to argue that firing guns on planes makes them less likely to crash.


There are times when David makes lots of sense...but not when talking about guns.

Along with the notion that planes would be safer if everyone carried a gun...he has asserted that our schools would be safer if all kids 8 years of age or older toted shootin' ahrn also.

Arguments are coming in from somewhere out near the planet Neptune.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 12:22 pm
@Frank Apisa,
His recent threat to shoot his father makes one wonder about his sanity.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jan, 2014 12:25 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

His recent threat to shoot his father makes one wonder about his sanity.


I don't think he threatened to shoot his father...he merely posited a hypothetical substituting his father and himself for that other kid and his father.

David is sane...and intelligent. But when guns become the subject...he goes ape.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 12:26 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
Leave it to David to argue that firing guns on planes makes them less likely to crash.
Is there any reason
that u can t explain that to the passengers on the 9/11/1 planes, Mr. Parados?????
How many of THEM fired guns on planes???





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 12:31 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
His recent threat to shoot his father makes one wonder about his sanity.
Are u just FAKING
that u are too dum to understand a hyptothetical, historical assertion??
I dunno, but I suspect that u are really NOT that stupid, Mr. Parados,
and that u really CAN read English. Tell me that I 'm incorrect.

( Note that my father died of natural causes in a different century. )





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 12:50 am
@Frank Apisa,
parados wrote:
His recent threat to shoot his father makes one wonder about his sanity.

Frank Apisa wrote:
I don't think he threatened to shoot his father...he merely posited a hypothetical
substituting his father and himself for that other kid and his father.

David is sane...and intelligent. But when guns become the subject...he goes ape.
The principle is that of THE RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE,
as distinct from any liberal implied duty to be helpless
in the face of the predatory violence of man or beast.
Guns are merely instruments used to carry out our rights, like TV
is an instrument of free speech. If guns were out-of-reach during
an emergency, then rocks, or knives 'd be imployed as well as possible. All defensive instruments are NOT equal.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 02:11 am
Obama Announces New Executive Actions On Background Checks
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/obama-executive-action-background-checks_n_4537543.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009&ir=Crime

THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 02:49 am
@RexRed,
RexRed Comes Out AGAINST EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS!!!

RexRed DEMANDS DISCRIMINATION!!!

RexRed wrote:

Obama Announces New Executive Actions On Background Checks
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/obama-executive-action-background-checks_n_4537543.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009&ir=Crime

THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 04:23 am
Why should jail be used to prevent a person from using their second amendment right to a gun? (cynical)

'Insane' escapee locked away for death of parents captured
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/03/22162388-insane-escapee-locked-away-for-death-of-parents-captured?lite
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 04:30 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
Why should jail be used to prevent a person from using their second amendment right to a gun? (cynical)

'Insane' escapee locked away for death of parents captured
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/03/22162388-insane-escapee-locked-away-for-death-of-parents-captured?lite
It makes me HAPPY that I remain immune to patricide.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 04:34 am
Gotta love the ignore feature, David is still on "ignore" and I do not care to even peek and see what bilge he is trying to pass off as a relevancy.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jan, 2014 04:45 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Gotta love the ignore feature, David
is still on "ignore" and I do not care to even peek
We BOTH know that 's not true, Rex,
but I DO love the Ignore feature
and I use it, for real.
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