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How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 02:13 pm
@camlok,
We are all "selective" in who we support. Is that news to you? LOL.
camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 02:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
We are all "selective" in who we support. Is that news to you? LOL.


Of course, ci, and you are totally comfortable in supporting and selecting liars, [like farmerman] murderers, thieves, baby killers, rapists, racists, terrorists, war criminals, ... to give your support to.

Then on the other hand, you make a pretense of being a caring, kind human being.

Any idea why so many around the world don't know where their next meal is coming from, or when the next bomb or glorified snipers/murderers will end
their lives?

You can, of course, appreciate your stunning hypocrisy, not to mention your cowardly behavior.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 02:53 pm
@camlok,
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Of course, ci, and you are totally comfortable in supporting and selecting liars, [like farmerman]


Provide evidence, not your opinion, that farmerman is a liar.
camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Provide evidence, not your opinion, that farmerman is a liar.


Lie 1. [repeated often] He, and others have had the same conversation about putting me on ignore and then the usual culprits show up to illustrate their lies.

I believe that you also have engaged in this lie, which is hardly surprising, because you are lying by omission right now. By not addressing reality, the impossibilities that have been put squarely in front of your nose, the impossibilities that children could understand, you LIE by omission you lie by diversion, you lie by distraction.

Lie 2: [repeated often]
farmerman's lies that he has addressed the science on this issue. He never has. He tried his usual dishonest flinging poo and pretending he was doing science [this is farmerman lying] but then he would always flee when he was asked pointed questions, just like you have been doing.

Which is a form of lying as I have pointed out.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 04:07 pm
@camlok,
Quote:
Lie 1. [repeated often] He, and others have had the same conversation about putting me on ignore and then the usual culprits show up to illustrate their lies.


Sue them. You make simple quotes as if they're legal; they're not! Get used to it. Small minded people make mountains out of mole hills.

farmerman is a well educated professor. His knowledge about Geology is beyond most people's understanding of the subject. He teaches graduate level courses in the subject. He also does consulting on the subject.

camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 04:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I knew that you, a guy who epitomizes dishonesty, would pull something dishonest like this, ci.

You forgot to make note that farmerman isn't close to being a scientist, in the same way that you aren't close to being an honest person.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 04:12 pm
@camlok,
Prove where I have been dishonest?
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steven bill
 
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Fri 7 Sep, 2018 02:47 pm
@Leadfoot,
i dont feel embarrassed. I dont know what it feels like to be embarrassed. What are you talking about?
Leadfoot
 
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Fri 7 Sep, 2018 06:12 pm
@steven bill,
Well, you should be. Go back and read what you wrote in the relevant post.
steven bill
 
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Sun 9 Sep, 2018 12:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
the rich and the poor still use the toilet dissame way.
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steven bill
 
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Sun 9 Sep, 2018 01:16 am
@Leadfoot,
i turn my wounds into wisdom--there is suffering because people think it to be a condition. It is not, it is only the time to use knowledge.
Now knowledge is logic. logic is the beginning of wisdom not the end.
Every thing comes in time to him to him who knows how to wait.
If my riches increase i do not put my trust in it, just as i dont trust my poverty.
Leadfoot, science is organized knowledge, wisdom is organized life.
Much wisdom often Goes with fewer words. i am a person who commands myself when in poverty or riches so that non command me.
Should i be embarrassed?no, if you still think i should be.
Then i think that to truely outlive this world, be embarrassed!
fresco
 
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Sun 9 Sep, 2018 01:57 am
@steven bill,
Wake up !
You don't 'command yourself' at all ! If you did you wouldn't be here on a verbal self re-inforcement exercise which gives the lie to your line "much wisdom goes with fewer words".
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 9 Sep, 2018 10:38 am
@steven bill,
A lot of babble with no content.
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brianjakub
 
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Sun 9 Sep, 2018 04:33 pm
@steven bill,
Makes sense to me. Different but interesting way to put.
Leadfoot
 
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Sun 9 Sep, 2018 05:30 pm
@steven bill,
Sounds like some kind of hybrid New Age /Christian bastard with a dash of Buddhist on a good day that forgot for a moment that all life is suffering tossed in. I’m not knock'n ya. My theism doesn’t have a lot of company either.
fresco
 
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Mon 10 Sep, 2018 06:18 am
@brianjakub,
As leadfoot points out, it only makes 'sense' from a pseudo buddhist perspective. Anybody reading Hesse's 'Siddhartha' would recognize it, but aspiring to dissolution of self is quite different from achieving it, hence the establishment of monwstic movements which tend to hold 'the world' at arms length. (Perhaps an interesting secondary debate might be whether monasticism is parasitic with repect to mainstream society)
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 10 Sep, 2018 10:33 am
@fresco,
It's really simple; all religions are manmade. There are no gods. The thousands of gods that are revered is a consequence of man's inability to accept the fact that we Homosapiens are at the top of the animal kingdom chain. We are it, and we're headed towards destroying this planet with our nuclear weapons and use of fossil fuels.
fresco
 
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Mon 10 Sep, 2018 11:58 am
@cicerone imposter,
Yes, religions are manmade, but as social structures can become significant conditioners of cognitive processes with psychological benefits. The fact that we might see this simply for what it is, is often too large a cognitive step for some conditioned thinkers to take, whose self integrity is bound up with their belief system.
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 10 Sep, 2018 01:51 pm
@fresco,
I agree; humans are social animals that usually follow the masses. That includes all the different cultures, religions, and political systems. Even in our country, there are around 40% that follows the Trump doctrine. From MPOV, nothing much good can come from a known bigot, liar, scammer, and xenophobe. We all drink our own poison.
coluber2001
 
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Mon 10 Sep, 2018 01:55 pm
@fresco,
Quote:
Anybody reading Hesse's 'Siddhartha' would recognize it, but aspiring to dissolution of self is quite different from achieving it, hence the establishment of monwstic [monastic] movements which tend to hold 'the world' at arms length.


I think in the Zen tradition, at least, seeking the dissolution of self or ego is seen as an ego trip in itself, and, therefore Zen is non-monastic.
The realization that the ego or self is an illusion and the acceptance of that illusion as a part of the psyche and life is sufficient. And this realization keeps us from becoming fanatical.
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