The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

@BillRM,

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Then you deal with the little problem that with a demand firearms would be shipped illegally into the country as drugs are now shipped into the country.

Yeah, people will be shoving AK47s up their assess so they can get through airport security. Rolling Eyes

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@parados,

So you are so dumb to think that most drugs cross the US border inside drug carriers bodies?

Sorry they are flown in, ship in, driven in and even underground tunnels between Mexico and the US are used to move hundreds of tons of drugs.

All those methods can be employed to bring firearms into the US.

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@BillRM,

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In a couple of hundreds years of so..........LOL.

Hell I myself have a gun over a hundred years old that would killed someone with the same ease as when it where band new.

Which neatly makes one of my numerous unanswered points.

That 300 million guns have saturated the existing market and thus gun manufacturers and distributors either seriously trim their operations or create fresh demand.

Parallels with the ladies' fashion industry abound.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Why do you comment on **** you know nothing about? Can't you look stuff up before writing?

I know more about the subject of this thread than you know about everything. It tends to make looking things up unnecessary.

Although from time to time that does mean I get something wrong.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

If your argument is that it's just as easy to kill someone or defend yourself with a knife or blunt object, surely you have no problem with guns being banned, then?

Cycloptichorn

Those of us who care about civil rights have a very great objection to banning guns.

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@parados,

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Which is why it matters very much what you use to stop up the ends. Pressure tends to find the weak spot. If the ends are weak, they will fail first and the pipe will not be harmed in any way.

Not if the pipe is long enough and the pressure builds in the middle faster than it can dissipate out the ends.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Baseball bats are now knives?

Quick.... look over there. Bill just changed the subject again.

No, he's still on the same subject as before.

It doesn't matter what the alternative weapon is. The fact remains that gun availability has little impact on homicide rates.

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@spendius,

Obviously the easiest method of creating fresh demand is to ratchet up anxiety levels conveniently ignoring the simple fact that increased anxiety involves costs in other spending departments.

Which means that the interests of the gun lobby run counter to the national interest and are, by definition, un-American.

The whole point of responsible leadership is to take unpopular decisions. Any fool can take popular decisions.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

As long as you have access to knives and sticks, you're not going to be a victim, as they are equally effective, in your opinion. Remember?

Or, perhaps, maybe, your arguments are simply full of ****? The idea that a gun is less effective than a knife or a stick is a joke.

It is more that you don't understand the argument. It isn't that guns aren't more effective. It is that other weapons are effective enough.

If a killer has to use a knife, it isn't as easy for them to kill as it would be if they had a gun. But it is easy enough that they are still able to kill if they want to.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Guns wear out over time - stop producing new ones to replace the old ones, and the problem goes away on it's own.

Setting aside the fact that that would be unconstitutional, and the fact that there is no problem to begin with, any "ban on production" would just drive production underground.

Guns can easily be produced in small unobtrusive shops anywhere in the country.

The most likely thing to be produced clandestinely would be something equivalent to a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun.

It should make for a big step up in firepower over the handguns usually carried by criminals.

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@spendius,

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The whole point of responsible leadership is to take unpopular decisions. Any fool can take popular decisions.

Our leadership I assume are bright enough to know that actions like a ban on so call assault rifles is meaningless as far as the safety of children or the murder rate as a whole so they are trying to pass laws that appeal to the anti gun lobby group and whoever the anti gun media campaign can drum up.

It is sad that they think they can play the american people as fools.

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@oralloy,

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It doesn't matter what the alternative weapon is. The fact remains that gun availability has little impact on homicide rates.

That would be your opinion vs actual studies that show the opposite. I'll stick with the scientists.

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@parados,

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That would be your opinion vs actual studies that show the opposite. I'll stick with the scientists.

You mean the science that have the murder rate at a 50 year low?

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@BillRM,

You mean the science that says we have an aging population?

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@Region Philbis,

Conservatives are "all" heart, and not much else!

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@parados,

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You mean the science that says we have an aging population?

So the average age of the population is must more important then the numbers of guns in the society to say nothing of other factors that are more important to the murder rate also?

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@parados,

parados wrote:

oralloy wrote:
It doesn't matter what the alternative weapon is. The fact remains that gun availability has little impact on homicide rates.

That would be your opinion vs actual studies that show the opposite.

No, that would be what the facts clearly show.

parados wrote:

I'll stick with the scientists.

Those discredited quacks hardly count as scientists.

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@BillRM,

Age is a very large contributing factor to crime rate of which gun crimes are a large part of crimes.

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