edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 19 Dec, 2012 09:37 pm
@fbaezer,
I forgot to include Gandhi, but, yes.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 19 Dec, 2012 09:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Done, c.i!

(By the way, if -in your visit to Havana, you happen to go by Infanta St. near downtown, my mother lived there as a child... and don't forget to have your mojito at La Bodeguita and your daiquiri at El Floridita).
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 19 Dec, 2012 10:39 pm
@fbaezer,
Been to both places several times; almost every time I'm in Havana, we go to La Bodeguita for drinks or for a meal in the back. As for Floridita, we have our daiguiri while listening to some great music, and trying to sit next to Ernest Hemingway's statue sitting at the end of the bar.

This was taken from the roof of the Parque Central Hotel.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2r25103.jpg

Waiting for our table at the La Guarida parador; one of the most famous in Havana. We saw Susan Sarandon there on our last visit to Cuba.
http://i47.tinypic.com/2w7o76d.jpg

Taken from the roof bar at the Saratoga Hotel.
http://i45.tinypic.com/zn0jyc.jpg

Hemingway at the Floridita.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2zgi52v.jpg

Musicians at the Dos Hermanos bar
http://i50.tinypic.com/35m1u9y.jpg

Another Hemingway hangout for mojitos
http://i45.tinypic.com/264m06w.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 19 Dec, 2012 11:00 pm
@fbaezer,
I looked up Infanta Street, but we have never gone into that area of Havana. We usually stick by Obispo, and the other squares on the east side of town. We also go to Melia Havana Hotel located some distance from downtown to have some drinks at the bar, smoke a cigar, and have dinner at the Japanese restaurant there. We know the waiter there. We used to know some of the bar tenders and manager, but none were there during our last visit.

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 11:28 am
@fbaezer,
I stayed there once with two girlfriends, probably '70, was knocked out by the architecture et al, loved it.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:41 pm
@ossobuco,
Back to Mexico City.

We are now west of the first section of Chapultepec, and north of the second section. At Lomas de Chapultepec (originally Chapultepec Heights, in English), one of the traditional neighborhoods for the rich and very rich:

http://www.ciudadmexico.com.mx/images/zones/lomas/lomas_chapultepec.jpg

http://img.zonaprop.com.mx/images/post/m/1/202/7/2021347.jpg

If you live in Las Lomas and don't have a car, you're doomed (and probably you work for somebody who lives there).
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:45 pm
@fbaezer,
I beg your pardon. I thought that hotel was in Mexico City. But I get your point re moving on.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:49 pm
@fbaezer,
East of Las Lomas, there is another upper class neighborhood, Polanco.

A few decades ago, it was mostly residential, and mostly houses like this one:

http://www.ciudadmexico.com.mx/images/zones/polanco/casa_californiana.jpg

Now, only a few of those mansions remain, often as stores, and a lot of buildings have surged. This is the Polanco skyline:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Polanco_Skyline_Mexico_City_DF.jpg/290px-Polanco_Skyline_Mexico_City_DF.jpg

It's still ritzy, but not as much as Lomas, full of stores, restaurants and other businesses, and has terrible traffic.
This is Presidente Masaryk, the avenue of "nice stores".

http://www.ciudadmexico.com.mx/images/zones/polanco/masaryk2.jpg
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:54 pm
@fbaezer,
Wow.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:55 pm
@fbaezer,
One of the nicest places in Polanco is Parque Lincoln.

http://www.chilango.com/media/2010/06/04/centrico-y-agradable-rincon-de-la-ciudad.jpg

Hey, two waiters from the nearby restaurants are having a stroll!

Of course, Abraham Lincoln presides this park:

http://www.miguelhidalgo.gob.mx/guiaturistica/uploads/directory/ParqueLincoln.jpg

... and Matin Luther King faces Lincoln:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5859/polancorayiceman2332467dk1.jpg

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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:05 pm
@ossobuco,
Sorry osso, I wasn't really replying to your post. The hotel is, of course, and as you well know it, in Mexico City. I meant "back to Mexico City" in referral to Cicerone's pics of Havana.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:07 pm
@fbaezer,
Oddly, Polanco has a "downtown". I think it's kind of cute:

http://www.miguelhidalgo.gob.mx/guiaturistica/uploads/directory/PasajePolanco.jpg

http://www.reporte.com.mx/media/files/reporte/styles/nota_img_principal/public/images/polanco1.jpg
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:16 pm
@fbaezer,
Polanco is so "in" that neighboring Colonia Irrigación and Colonia Granada often advertise themselves as Polanco (specially real state agents).

This is a posh mall at Irrigación, "Antara Polanco":

http://www.ciudadmexico.com.mx/images/zones/nuevo_polanco/antara_polanco.jpg

This is the kinds of buildings that populate "Nuevo Polanco" (parts of Irrigación, Granada and even working class Colonia Anáhuac)

http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2012/11/05/fotos/037n1cap-1.jpg

And this is Museo Soumaya, at Irrigación... err... I meant "Polanco":

http://www.eluniversaldf.mx/fotos/museo_soumaya1.JPG
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:16 pm
@fbaezer,
Sorry for being snippy - not only to you, whom I listen to except when arguing - I did this yesterday to someone whose posts I appreciate on other subjects. Slaps self.

What is going on is that for a while we can't just Reply All.
Some of us are now doing this

@ all
or some version of that.


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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:24 pm
@fbaezer,
That's true in california too. People in lower Venice claim Marina del Rey and the post office has let them.
Hiss.
Biggo real estate market over some areas that used to be red-lined.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:28 pm
@ossobuco,
On the contrary, I love to say I live in Anzures, even if my neighborhood is adjacent to Polanco. I happen to think it's nicer to live in. But Hotel Camino Real, very much in Anzures, says "Polanco".
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:35 pm
@fbaezer,
I say I live(d) in Venice, home of Sholine Crips and V13, and other history including mine.
It's others who long have wished to be marina, and so on, re property come ons, who fancify.
That's another thread, just trying to be clear.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:20 pm
@ossobuco,
@ all

A vecindad in Colonia Anáhuac, right next to "Nuevo Polanco".

http://www.miguelhidalgo.gob.mx/sitio2013/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FOTO-1-5.jpg

Many vecindades in the zone have been turned into buildings like this one:

http://safe-img01.olx.com.mx/ui/19/61/66/f_311695566-760850063.jpeg

Not much to see in Colonias Anáhuac, Tlatilco and Verónica Anzúres, if you ask me. Except for a skyscraper, the Pemex Tower... if you work for Pemex.

http://www.mexicomaxico.org/Voto/images/PEMEX/TorrePemex.jpg
fbaezer
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:32 pm
@fbaezer,
We are moving northeast... and arrive at Barrio de Tacuba, another ancient Aztec city.

Not much left of the Aztecs, though. Rather some impressive colonial churches:

http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/assets/images/barrios%20magicos/tacuba/parroquia-san-miguel-arcangel-exterior-tacuba.jpg

... and a few interesting old houses in the middle of streets with homely buildings:

http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/assets/images/barrios%20magicos/tacuba/casona-tacuba.jpg

http://safe-img01.olx.com.mx/ui/1/63/82/41416182_2.jpg

In the Aztec times, there was a street leading from Tenochtitlan to Tacuba; it was used by the Spaniards as they fled when defeated by the Aztecs. They arrived close to Tacuba, at what is now Colonia Popotla.
Cortés was so sad and frustrated that he sat under a tree and wept.
It is "The Tree of the Sad Night":

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/img/2010/08/Ciu/00arbol-noche-trsite.jpg

Popotla is also home to the old Military Academy:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4135/5445356171_4ea59d1695_z.jpg
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:38 pm
@fbaezer,
Eeek, on the Pemex tower.
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