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CIA Chief Petraeus resigns as result of extra-marital affair

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 01:48 pm
@revelette,
Broadwell must be something of a loose cannon if she sends threatening and harassing e-mail messages to other people.

Again, this reflects on the poor judgment shown by Petraeus in getting involved with someone like that.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 01:54 pm
What does Petraeus'a bad judgement have to do with Obama? He was chosen by congress to head the CIA.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 01:56 pm
@firefly,
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Broadwell must be something of a loose cannon if she sends threatening and harassing e-mail messages to other people.

Again, this reflects on the poor judgment shown by Petraeus in getting involved with someone like that.


What's with all this silly speculation, FF? Surely the truth will come out. After all, y'all are the actual government of the people by the people for the people, are you not?

BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:05 pm
@firefly,
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Broadwell must be something of a loose cannon if she sends threatening and harassing e-mail messages to other people.


AGREE......

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Again, this reflects on the poor judgment shown by Petraeus in getting involved with someone like that.


Do not agree with the someone like that comment as from what is publicly known about the lady there seems to had been no indication she could be that emotionally unstable.

She could not had been showing that she was such a flake when she got through West Point and her time in the military as an officer and is still a reserve officer.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:13 pm
@BillRM,
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Do not agree with the someone like that comment as from what is publicly known about the lady there seems to had been no indication she could be that emotionally unstable.

Hopefully, Petraeus knew her considerably better than "what is publicly known about the lady"--and one might expect that he could have, and should have, been able to spot the signs of instability that are apparently there.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:18 pm
@firefly,
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Hopefully, Petraeus knew her considerably better than "what is publicly known about the lady"--and one might expect that he could have, and should have, been able to spot the signs of instability that are apparently there.


You're asking a war criminal, a terrorist to spot signs of instability in others, FF? Lordy, lord gal!
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:20 pm
@JTT,
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What's with all this silly speculation, FF?

Trying to understand why this man, a particularly highly disciplined man, would jeopardize his career in this way, is really the only part of this story I find interesting.
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Surely the truth will come out.

Maybe, if he ever decides to tell it.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:24 pm
@firefly,
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Trying to understand why this man, a particularly highly disciplined man, would jeopardize his career in this way is really the only part of this story I find interesting.


And you're not interested in why supposedly moral individuals automatically become war criminals and terrorists as soon as they are elected as presidents of the US.

You're not interested in why so many supposedly moral individuals, raised in the good ole US of A, become war criminals and terrorists when they join the CIA or the US military.

firefly
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:37 pm
@JTT,
I leave all that heavy stuff to the greater minds, like yours, JTT. Smile
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:40 pm
@firefly,
Why, FF? Is it too troubling for your mind or not at all troubling?

You know, you've had a whole raft of betrayus leaders and it seems not to even twig in your collective minds. As long as you keep getting a chance to mark your X on a little piece of paper, you blithely drift on deluding yourself into thinking, well actually, not thinking about anything of import.
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revelette
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:49 pm
@firefly,
I find it interesting that a woman claiming to have had access to classified information was relating Fox News talking points at Aspen Institute, points which have since been denied by the CIA. Since this was after the affair ended, I am wondering if there was any "hell hath no furry like a woman scorned" being involved with the emails and some of her comments at the institute.

Paula Broadwell Access To Classified Information Raises Questions (UPDATED)



JTT
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:51 pm
@revelette,
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I am wondering if there was any "hell hath no furry like a woman scorned" being involved with the emails and some of her comments at the institute.


I doubt, it Rev. The trend these days seems to be clean shaven.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 03:29 pm
@firefly,
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and one might expect that he could have, and should have, been able to spot the signs of instability that are apparently there.


Good luck as she could not have been giving out indications that she was unstable to get as far ahead in life as she had done up to that point to a great many people and there is nothing magical about the insight you get by going to bed with someone.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 03:32 pm
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Former CIA director David H. Petraeus told the woman with whom he was having an extramarital affair to stop sending threatening e-mails to a family friend, Jill Kelley, after a federal investigation determined who was behind the harassment.

The move by Petraeus came in mid-summer after Kelley contacted a friend who worked as an FBI agent in Tampa, where she lived, beginning a process that would eventually force the former four-star former general to resign last week.

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Kelley was informed that Broadwell was the sender, although she told investigators that she did not know the woman, according to the person close to Kelley.

At some point, Kelley told Petraeus about the e-mails and named Broadwell as the person who had sent them. That may have prompted the CIA director to send his own e-mails to Broadwell, telling her to stop the harassment, the law enforcement officials said.

People close to Petraeus say his affair with Broadwell ended four months ago, around the time he e-mailed her about the harassment.Filling in some blanks
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 03:42 pm
@firefly,
This does not sound like the achievements of a woman that is unstable in anyway.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/12/paula-broadwell-petraeus-biographer-and-alleged-mistress/

•Born in North Dakota in 1972 and raised in Bismarck, the state’s capital.
•Attended Century High School, where she was named both prom queen and valedictorian.
•Graduated from West Point, receiving a degree in political geography and systems engineering and ranking first in her class for overall fitness.
•Earned a Master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, where she first met Petraeus in 2006.
•Also earned a Master’s degree in international security from the University of Denver.
•As an Army Reservist, was recalled to active duty three times following 9/11 to focus on counterterrorism.
•Previous gigs include modeling for a machine gun manufacturer.
•On Twitter, calls herself a “National Security Analyst; Army Vet; Women’s Rights Activist; Runner/Skier/Surfer; Wife; Mom!”
•A self-described “soccer mom,” she lives in the Dilworth neighborhood of Charlotte, N.C., with her two children and her husband, a radiologist.
•Her family moved to Charlotte about three years ago, because it was her husband’s turn to choose a location based on an agreement they’d made.
•She developed her doctoral dissertation on transformational leadership into a project that would eventually become the biography, All In.
•Criticized by some for painting a biased portrait of Petraeus in All In that supposedly revealed a deep admiration of him.
•Described by neighbors as a friendly, devoted and involved mother.
•Has lived, worked or traveled in more than 60 countries.
•Interests include surfing, wine tasting, kickboxing and mentoring youth, according to her LinkedIn page.


Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/12/paula-broadwell-petraeus-biographer-and-alleged-mistress/#ixzz2C2y9zdUF
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 03:45 pm
@BillRM,
What's beyond WOW?
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 03:51 pm
Another confirmation re getting a warrant.

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Kelley, it appears, likely knew Petraeus from his time heading Florida-based U.S. Central Command, where she volunteered planning social events. She also had a friend in the FBI, whom she told about the e-mails. Perhaps because the messages referenced Petraeus, by then the director of the CIA, which is institutionally sensitive to any potential that its officials could be exposed to blackmail or other threats, the FBI seems to have pursued the case aggressively.

FBI investigators picked up the data trail from there. They determined that the account belonged to Broadwell and her husband, in part by analyzing the metadata attached to the e-mails, which can help determine the location of the sender. The locations matched up with Broadwell’s travel schedule. From there, the FBI identified other e-mail accounts that had been accessed from the same IP address, which they secured a warrant to monitor. This included another anonymous account, apparently also Broadwell’s, from which she exchanged sexually explicit e-mails with a third anonymous e-mail account, also Gmail. This account, the FBI concluded, belonged to Petraeus, a discovery that led agents to confront both him and Broadwell.Washington Post
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 03:55 pm
@BillRM,
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This does not sound like the achievements of a woman that is unstable in anyway.



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•Born in North Dakota in 1972 and raised in Bismarck, the state’s capital.
•Attended Century High School, where she was named both prom queen and valedictorian.
•Graduated from West Point,


Case closed.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 05:01 pm
@JPB,
Highly interesting as metadata placed in a doc by a word processor is what allowed the police to find the BTK serial killer so at the risk of getting Firefly mad at me and helping stalkers and or serial killers alway output from a word processor a file in text mode only if you do not care to be trace.

Next I am happy to find that the CIA director and his mistress was not complete idiots and used throw away email accounts and open hotspots to log into those throw away accounts.

Still they should had use Tor or even Tor mail when sending those emails.

Oh digital cameras/smart phones have the charming habit of putting out metadata some even have the GPS location where the picture were taken so if you wish to take a picture of a kidnapped victim to send to the family or police get a freeware program to remove those metadate first.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 05:19 pm
@BillRM,
Oh do not forget to encrypted your hard drive with such programs as truecrypt so if the FBI should knock on your door with a warrant eager to view the sex emails between you and the CIA director or Obama for that matter save to your hard drive it will stop then dead in their tracks.
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