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Want to get closer to god, how can i accomplish this?

 
 
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 11:35 am
@Telamon,
Telamon wrote:

Lustig Andrei wrote:

If that. Irrelevant. The point is that a real alcoholic cannot quit by oneself. He/she needs the crutch of something like A.A. Statistics has nothing to do with ti.

False, I have.
And statistics of success for a program such as AA I think IS relevant when people are forced to go and it receives government funding.
Lustig Andrei wrote:

Profit? Who profits? There are no dues or fees for A.A. At meeting the hat is passed and it's up to you whether you want to drop some loose change in there. A person could go to meeting seven days a week for the rest of his life, drink free coffee, and never contribute a cent. There are those who do. To claim that A.A. is somehow "about profit" isabout the dumbest thing you could possibly have said.

If there is no profit, then how is it funded? Just because they don’t take your money directly, that doesn’t mean there not making a profit- do some research first, or if that’s too much work, refer to my previous post with the video link.
Lustig Andrei wrote:

I don't recall that anyone but you has so far mentioned "the devil." Those last two sentences of yours make no sense whatever.

The rest, my point was clearly lost on you, and frankly, right now I don’t have the patience to sketch out a explanation suitable for someone whose, for lack of a better word, ossified.


You are obviously totally ignorant about A.A. but still continue to push your silly agenda. Alcoholics Anonymous receives no government funding whatever. (Where did you get that bizarre idea?) Part of the A.A. Preamble says "...we are fully self-supporting, accepting no outside contributions." I can guarantee you that if the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation were to call up the A.A. Central Service offices in NYC today and offer them a grant of several million dollars, that grant would be turned down, would not be accepted. The Seventh Tradition of A.A. specifically forbids accepting gifts, especially large gifts, from any source.

You really shouldn't argue about things that you obviously know nothing whatever about.
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Telamon
 
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Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 01:31 am
@Lustig Andrei,
My apologies on the government funding comments, I’ve confused this program with something else in that regard.
Outside of monetary conjecture in regards with government involvement , I stand by the rest of my comments.
Thank you Lustig for the correction.
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tottin
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 01:29 pm
@9one1,
Do a search on the internet for Divine Truth.
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JohnBaner01
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2015 10:08 am
@9one1,
God is the force that holds everything together, hence his omnipresence. He is in all things including plants, trees, animals, the earth, the universe and including on this very page. Think about it, every character is subservient to every other character in a word, every word is subservient to every other word in a sentence and every sentence is subservient to every other sentence in the page. Thus, every part plays its specific role for the good of the whole. This same principle is seen in all of nature. Although we can never be quite like him, Jesus himself said that the only way to get to our father is through him (which is righteousness/selflessness). Thus, to be closer to God, one has to use the instincts of selflessness that god gave us (the voice of which is commonly referred to as our 'conscience') for the good of others, relinquish one's own desires for the good of others.

This however, is easier said than done as we humans have become an evil species (I say have become because we are not born that way). As of yet, we do not have an explanation as to why we commit evil acts. Thus, we can only try to live up to these ideals for now.
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