Re: I'll give it a try
sp3kdsofl wrote:Colossians 2:6-23 says
[quote]Freedom From Human Regulations Through Life With Christ
6So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, 7rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.
8See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.
9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. 11In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.
13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.[4]
16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
20Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
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In my opinion this means that Jesus fulfilled that old testament law and we are no longer to live according to them.[/quote]
Collosians was written by Paul...who never met Jesus and who obviously never discussed anything with Jesus.
Here is what Jesus had to say about this:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come, not abolish them, but to fulfill them. Of this much I assure you: UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, NOT THE SMALLEST LETTER OF THE LAW, NOT THE SMALLEST PART OF A LETTER, SHALL BE DONE AWAY WITH UNTIL IT ALL COME TRUE." Matthew 5: 17ff
Mind you...Jesus said that he was not here to change the law...not one word...not one letter...not one stroke of one letter.
And that was to hold until Heaven and Earth pass away!
That is rather emphatic, wouldn't you say?
So the question that arises is...which do you want to accept...the word of Paul or of Jesus?
Quote:The bible also says in 1 Corinthians 4: 1-5
[quote]1So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God. 2Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. 3I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
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I am not to judge. I can only live my life in a way that I beleive is pleasing to God and for that I will be judged when I stand before him.[/quote]
Well...that is good...and I admire it.
I, on the other hand, think the Bible is mythology...so I have decided to live my life in a way that I suppose to be pleasing to me....which is to say, I lead my life in a "live and let live" way.
I feel that I am as moral, ethical, honest, and empathetic to my fellow humans as any Christians motivated by what they suppose their god expects of them.
Quote:I look froward to hearing your response.
I look forward to hearing any comments you have on what I said in response.
(I like your avatar. Is that you?)