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HOME OWNER KILLS HOME INVADER

 
 
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2012 03:49 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You mean Éire, the land of spells and fairies, where Gingers roam free in the fields?.
Yes I am.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2012 03:50 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
What r Gingers ??
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2012 03:57 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David you need to get out more, then again I think Carl Lewis made a good point today.

A ginger is a redhead, the much maligned redhead. Which is so wrong, red haired women are gorgeous. The men, eh, not for me to say.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2012 05:11 am
@Mame,
Mame wrote:
Why couldn't he have just shot to wound instead of kill? Shoot in the knee cap or hand or something?


Because it isn't possible. The only thing to do if you are shooting in self defense is empty a clip into the center of the chest.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2012 05:11 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Instead of making jokes, Farmer, why don't you address the truth of the matter. You're a bona fide academic, right?

Quote:


Small Arms Treaty

Claim: A U.N. small arms treaty signed by the U.S. provides a "legal way around the 2nd Amendment."


FALSE


Example: [Collected via e-mail, April 2010]

...

We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This has happened in other countries, past and present!

THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR A FALSE WARNING.

As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

...

Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. This is a very serious matter! Silence will lead us to Socialism!!!


Origins: Although the United Nations has been studying the feasibility of effecting an Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), the above-referenced piece of scarelore about the United States' having already entered into a such a treaty — one which supposedly provides a "legal way around the 2nd Amendment" and will result in a "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens" — is erroneous in all its particulars.

READ THE WHOLE THING AT,

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp


There are some major falsehoods in the Snopes page.

First, the people who push the treaty do want to have it ban most guns for civilians, and have tried repeatedly to draft a treaty with such provisions.

Whether the current attempt would have such provisions is hard to say, given the apparent secrecy surrounding the current proposal. However, given history there is much cause for suspicion.


And second, while the Constitution on paper does supersede a treaty, the freedom haters dream of a Supreme Court that will look the other way and allow our rights to be wantonly violated.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jul, 2012 05:13 am
@Green Witch,


Hardly a good source if the truth is the goal.



Quote:
PROBLEM: There are too many victims of gun violence because we make it too easy for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons in America.


DID YOU KNOW? In one year on average, almost 100,000 people in America are shot or killed with a gun.

* In one year, 31,593 people died from gun violence and 66,769 people survived gun injuries (National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (NCIPC)). That includes:

o 12,179 people murdered and 44,466 people shot in an attack (NCIPC).

o 18,223 people who killed themselves and 3,031 people who survived a suicide attempt with a gun (NCIPC).


Problem?

If those people had been killed with some other weapon instead, that would make things better?

If they were killed with knives, would it make them less dead?



Quote:
DID YOU KNOW? Where there are more guns, there are more gun deaths.

* An estimated 41% of gun-related homicides and 94% of gun-related suicides would not occur under the same circumstances had no guns been present (Wiebe, p. 780).

* Higher household gun ownership correlates with higher rates of homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings (Harvard Injury Control Center).

* Keeping a firearm in the home increases the risk of suicide by a factor of 3 to 5 and increases the risk of suicide with a firearm by a factor of 17 (Kellermann, 1992, p. 467; Wiebe, p. 771).

* Keeping a firearm in the home increases the risk of homicide by a factor of 3 (Kellermann, 1993, p. 1084).


Those claims are all lies.




Quote:
* A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a completed or attempted suicide (11x), criminal assault or homicide (7x), or unintentional shooting death or injury (4x) than to be used in a self-defense shooting. (Kellermann, 1998, p. 263).

* Guns are used to intimidate and threaten 4 to 6 times more often than they are used to thwart crime (Hemenway, p. 269).

* Every year there are only about 200 legally justified self-defense homicides by private citizens (FBI, Expanded Homicide Data, Table 15) compared with over 30,000 gun deaths (NCIPC).

* A 2009 study found that people in possession of a gun are 4.5 times more likely to be shot in an assault (Branas).


Those claims are highly misleading half truths.

I see after this that they are heading back into lies again. But I got tired of slogging through it all.

Let's just chalk up every single thing ever said by the Brady freaks as an outright lie and leave it at that.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jul, 2012 10:33 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:



Hardly a good source if the truth is the goal.
I was thinking that too.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jul, 2012 06:42 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Yet you two idiots would trust the NRA and worse, the US government.
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