Time simply does not exist

...really no **** ? (keep your basic description of physics in your pocket)

Who said time was the progenitor of movement ?

Time is the MEASUREMENT of movement !

What movement is or is not is yet another matter...

who said time make things move ???

@Rickoshay75, Rickoshay75 wrote: rosborne979 wrote: The human perception of time may be an abstract concept, but time itself is a key component of the physical universe.

Time only has meaning to humans, their motion measurement methods. and motion calculations.

by lustig Andrei , Wrong again. Without time there can be no motion. Motion has duration and that is one of the things that time measures. (The other is interval.)

can you read measurement ? geee...

What is it that you don't get, that time is the measurement of movement ?

Or that any of the folks you quoted are expressing their opinion ?

I certainly didn't suggest time has influence in anything...rather it results from "influence"...time is just another word for accounting movement or change...whether movement is anything but an illusion is the question I am trying to figure out...

...no North it is not now, I claim that possibility since my first posts...if you cared to read them carefully before replying you wouldn't be surprised, but then you abhor abstraction don't you ?

you are all about concreteness...

...instead of claiming it makes no sense without further justification why don't you go ahead and demonstrate it ?

For your information you are utterly ignorant on several approaches to the nature of movement some of them coming from theoretical physics which are not far from my position...

Movement is asserted through the observation of change, for instance in position location of an object...

such change on the arrangement of information does not imply that whatever you stooped seeing from past point A to present point B is not there although it implys you can't see it or interact with it any more, its not there for you...

using Occam's Razor principle, if you can simplify movement as an effect of something fundamentally simpler then probably that is the correct approach...

lets see if I can clarify it further still.. Imagine "you" North not as a single observer moving from A to B but as a collection of observers, several Norths, as North point 1.2.3.4. etc positioned along a grid directly matching and observing another event arranged in a similar process...North point 2 wont observe, say, event Y point 1 because event Y point 1 is only observed by North point 1...hope you get the idea...

In a nutshell: Information portrays a system of fundamental numerical mathematical relations with operative value expressed through space resulting in the "effects" we experience.