JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:16 pm
@ossobuco,
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JTT the Endless Insistent


Osso writes, rather hypocritically, but we'll take no notice of that: I've read recently that use of they/their is heard more often now when it refers to a singular subject. This makes me grind my teeth.

Which is better to your mind, Osso, to be insistent upon the truth, or to be insistent upon maintaining untruths?

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:21 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
Yes, as it it is endlessly repetitive. We all get points of view but they go on forever and ever and ever.

Can neither of you ever shut up?

I often agree with one or the other of you, but that is not like agreeing with a person, it is like agreeing with an automaton.


NCIS is an interesting show, Ossobuco...but I guess watching reruns every day could get boring. Yet there seems to be no end of syndication of that show...and reruns can be found somewhere damn near every day.

I considered writing to the various stations that carry it to ask them to cut down on the number they run...or to stop running them completely.

But I decided it made more sense simply not to tune in...which was an option open to me.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:26 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
I wasn't declaring any victory, Frank. I don't hope to be "victorious".


Yeah, you are, JTT. You really are.

Quote:
I just want you to bring yourself up to speed on how English/languages work. [It's really not all that difficult]


I am quite proficient at it; really do not need your help. But I welcome your interest.

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I just want you to stop spreading falsehoods about English.


Quote the "falsehoods" you see me spreading, JTT. I do not think I have done that.

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I just want you to not continue to appear the fool when you proffer advice about English.


How nice of you...but you really have nothing to worry about. I handle myself more than adequately.

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This is all very much in keeping with your project to help all address each other with respect.


And you are doing a heck of a good job of it, JTT. I thank you for it.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:35 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
That is my tag line, Contrex...and I agree with you about the practical level.

I always acknowledge what I do not know...and I try never to pretend to I know the stuff I do not know.
That is a very fine strategy,
and one that I have always employed.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:36 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank,
Will reveal your opinion of intellectuals ?

Do u believe that people shud employ their intellects ?





David
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:43 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I am quite proficient at it; really do not need your help. But I welcome your interest.


I noted that you were proficient at it, Frank. I guess you didn't understand that either. Everyone is proficient at their language. That's one of the things that you really do not understand.

You are not at all proficient at describing how language works. You've memorized some prescriptions but you are completely unable to discuss them save for this type of tangential banter. You don't know grammar and you don't understand the workings of language.

Now you don't have to knock yourself out over this. You've had no training, you've given it next to nothing in terms of thinking about language. How do I know this? From your complete inability to discuss language.

Quote:
Quote the "falsehoods" you see me spreading, JTT. I do not think I have done that.


The one in this thread, Frank - someone/they. The two you tried to pull on H2Oman. Offer another of the rules you know about language and dollars to donuts it'll be another prescription.

I've filled pages with sources from language science for you and you, the proficient one, [keep in mind that this means consciously proficient] have not addressed one thing from those sources.

You don't "handle [your]self more than adequately", Frank. You only know the prescriptions. Those are not rules of English. Language has millions and millions of rules and you're not going to find them in those slim little volumes that you think have made you consciously proficient.

There's one now, the difference between should and ought to. Why not go over there and give it a whirl, Frank? I could get your the link if you wanted.

No, forget that. Why not start with the one from this thread - someone/they/their?


JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:45 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Do u believe that people shud employ their intellects ?


It would be wonderful, a truly joyous occasion, if you even attempted it, Dave
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:46 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
But I decided it made more sense simply not to tune in...which was an option open to me
You dont see the difference? Here, osso and several others tune into various discussion lines. THEN WE ARE FED NCIS because Frank and the Asshole JT are duking it out and, the dirty little secret is, I think you both look stupid and I know you are not. JT is derangd so why even deal with it. It needs as much attention as it can garner and, by you putting up these seriatim "post/response/post responses" you remnd those of us that have it on ignore that it still lives among us.
If yer gonna respond to its needs, at least dont provide us with serial "quotes " of its looniness.



Im hoping, with tangential remarks about its creepiness and Nazi views, it may sooner or later just move to another venue and we wont need shots.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:51 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I don't have a tv.

NCIS means nothing to me.

Repetition is stultifying and not useful for argument.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 07:54 pm
@farmerman,
Farmer pretends that he is an academic. He pretends that he's got me on ignore and then he replies to a post, mumbling some inanity about his clumsy fingers hitting the wrong button.

Quote:
If yer gonna respond to its needs, at least dont provide us with serial "quotes " of its looniness.


Notice the "its" stuff. Classy for a perfesser, doncha think?

I'd take Farmer's advice if I were you, Frank. Why would you want to conduct yourself in a manner of your own choosing, when you can have Farmer instruct you in what's your appropriate behavior?

And certainly, you don't want to risk having Farmer read something unapproved, something that may actually cause him to think.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 08:03 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
JT is derangd so why even deal with it. It needs as much attention as it can garner and, by you putting up these seriatim "post/response/post responses" you remnd those of us that have it on ignore that it still lives among us.
If yer gonna respond to its needs, at least dont provide us with serial "quotes " of its looniness.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8306/symbolthumbsupgreend.png
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 08:15 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Quote the "falsehoods" you see me spreading, JTT. I do not think I have done that.


You certainly didn't spread the one JoefromChicago advanced, Frank, but why didn't you weigh in on that phantasmagorical piece of nonsense?

I can't imagine that you agreed with Joe, [did anyone other than a shy Eva?]. That discussion with Joe is illustrative of the cliquishness that is so much a part of A2K. People aren't interested in the truth, they're interested in maintaining their standing in the clique. It's writ large

Don't piss off the clique!

Farmer's given you fair warning, Frank - engage with JTT at your peril. They do the same with Spendi, Hawkeye, BillRM and others.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 08:18 pm
@Ticomaya,
Hi Tico. Is your hole getting a little hot and stuffy?
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 09:14 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
...I can't imagine that you agreed with Joe, [did anyone other than a shy Eva?]....


Congratulations, JTT. To my knowledge, you are the first person in my entire lifetime who has ever referred to me as "shy." Laughing Laughing Laughing

Don't mistake my reticence to defend myself to you as "shyness." I stand by what I originally said, and I didn't think it was worth my time to respond to this silly controversy. The only reason I'm responding now is that being called "shy" was so damned funny I couldn't resist!

Oh man, wait 'til I tell my friends! I am choking with laughter!!!
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 09:26 pm
@Eva,
Quote:
and I didn't think it was worth my time to respond to this silly controversy.


You're right about that, Eva. I don't think I've ever come across a more nonsensical prescription in my life and they are all pretty damn nonsensical.

Quote:
I stand by what I originally said,


Which wasn't much as I recall. What does "good catch" mean? How does it help anyone, and dog knows Joe needs a great deal of help, defend this nonsense.

Where did you come across this prescription, Eva?

Quote:
Oh man, wait 'til I tell my friends! I am choking with laughter!!!


Whatever you do, don't tell them about this prescription? Smile
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Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 09:53 pm
@Joe England,
Quote:
“… Congrats on the new job.”-


... Congrats on your job too Joe, although I'dnice seeing you again
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 09:55 pm
@ossobuco,
Replying to myself - because you two are boring us to death.
Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 09:57 pm
@Joe England,
Quote:
“… Congrats on the new job.”-


u2 joe tx hon
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jul, 2012 10:11 pm
@ossobuco,
It sounds like there are more than two of you, Osso.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 03:27 am
@JTT,
Quote:
@Frank Apisa,

Quote:
I am quite proficient at it; really do not need your help. But I welcome your interest.


I noted that you were proficient at it, Frank. I guess you didn't understand that either. Everyone is proficient at their language. That's one of the things that you really do not understand.

You are not at all proficient at describing how language works. You've memorized some prescriptions but you are completely unable to discuss them save for this type of tangential banter. You don't know grammar and you don't understand the workings of language.

Now you don't have to knock yourself out over this. You've had no training, you've given it next to nothing in terms of thinking about language. How do I know this? From your complete inability to discuss language.


But we ARE discussing language, JTT. Right here.

Haven't you noticed?


Quote:
Quote:
Quote the "falsehoods" you see me spreading, JTT. I do not think I have done that.


The one in this thread, Frank - someone/they. The two you tried to pull on H2Oman. Offer another of the rules you know about language and dollars to donuts it'll be another prescription.


I was not wrong in what I said about language in this thread. Why are you saying it was a falsehood?

Quote:
I've filled pages with sources from language science for you and you, the proficient one, [keep in mind that this means consciously proficient] have not addressed one thing from those sources.


I suggest that this comment of yours is hyperbole. I've told you a million times not to do that, JTT.

Quote:

You don't "handle [your]self more than adequately", Frank.


Oh, yes I do.

I am not responsible for your inability to see that I do...and to acknowledge that I do.



Quote:
You only know the prescriptions. Those are not rules of English. Language has millions and millions of rules and you're not going to find them in those slim little volumes that you think have made you consciously proficient.


Gosh, how do you know the size of the books I have available to me?

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There's one now, the difference between should and ought to. Why not go over there and give it a whirl, Frank? I could get your the link if you wanted.


Sure, why not. Give me a link or two.

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No, forget that. Why not start with the one from this thread - someone/they/their?


Oops. Didn't realize you were going to change your mind so quickly. Forget about the links.

JTT, you are doing just fine here. I am enjoying this discussion with you. And you are conducting yourself like a gentleman...or a lady, whichever!
 

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