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Tail wagging as air propellent

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ossobuco
 
Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 07:26 pm
I've been thinking on this. Any views?

That is, what is all the wagging about?

I naturally love it.

Katy has a major tail. Whap city.

I'm interested in how tails work.
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 07:36 pm
@ossobuco,
You know, you might oughtta keep an eye out for the Chet and Bernie mysteries by Spencer Quinn. I'm mostly kind of negative on stories that feature animals as intelligent actors, but this series is spot on.

The Dog Who Knew Too Much (Chet and Bernie Mysteries, No. 4) by Spencer Quinn (Sep 6, 2011)
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 07:42 pm
@roger,
Me too, and we've talked about this, I don't tolerate cute mysteries, watch me implode.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 07:50 pm
@ossobuco,
Dogs are flaunting to us humans how they know the secret on how to invent the always out of reach perpetual motion machine which in itself is the ultimate clean and unlimited renewable power source.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 07:56 pm
@tsarstepan,
what?
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 08:03 pm
@ossobuco,
It's okay. Chet never knows when the tail is in motion till he feels an unexplained breeze. He's also never quite conscious of how he happened to end up so close to some body's steak dinner. In some ways, he's a genius; in others a total moron.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 08:05 pm
@roger,
Criminy.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2012 08:09 pm
@ossobuco,
I see a lake of petunias, or thistle.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 12:43 am
Although many people view tail wagging as a sign of happiness, it can also be a sign of excitement and is not always a good thing. However, I think in Katy's case, she's just happy. Actually tails can tell us a lot about dogs and their state of mind.

However, I digress. If you want to make use of the energy she's giving off from the tail wagging, I don't know where to begin.

And wasn't this a helpful post. Sorry.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 02:34 am
@Roberta,
I was kidding on my previous posts.
In retrospect, Tsar's take was cool.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 02:53 am
@ossobuco,
Hi Osso.
I can across this today.
What do you think of this theory?
Doesn't sound quite right to me, but then I know a lot more about cats than dogs .... I've always thought of tail wagging as sign of doggie friendliness:

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... A thinker on dogs who I respect quite a bit, (although once again lacks a model for what’s going on inside the dog’s mind), is Desmond Morris. For our current purposes I call on his book Dogwatching wherein he writes at length on the phenomenon of tail-wagging. He states: “The only emotional condition that all tail-waggers share is a state of conflict. This is true of almost all back-and-forth movements in animal communication. When an animal is in conflict it feels pulled in two different directions at the same time. It wants to advance and retreat simultaneously. Since each urge cancels the other out, the animal stays where it is, but in a state of conflict. Essentially the animal wants to stay and wants to go away. The urge to go away is simple–it is caused by fear. The urge to stay is more complex.”

I agree that tail wagging indicates a state of conflict, there is an inherent momentum pulling/pushing the dog forward, but something is causing it to hold back as well. A state of attraction in conflict with fear: this is why dogs wag their tails.


Why Do Dogs Wag Their Tails?:
http://naturaldogtraining.com/blog/why-do-dogs-wag-their-tails/
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 05:32 pm
@msolga,
I think I think it really isn't necessarily conflict, it is expectation in wait, at least some of the time, which in Katy's case is a state of sublime happiness at the same moment.

She had a good day at the nursing facility today, and thus so did Roger. His sister reached out to Katy, Katy reached out to his sister.

We also confirmed something we weren't sure of, but I worried about, whether she would jet out the front door past us, given room enough. STAY is the underlearned command.

Yep. On the other hand, she did turn around and come to me when I called.
On the other hand, she did not want to go back in the house without us.



That's 'propellant'.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 08:51 pm
@ossobuco,
I've noticed I've slipped into the habit of calling her Miss Kate. Can't think of why.
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