Fil Albuquerque wrote:
Unless you can provide an ultimate justification in favour of causality things timelessly speaking are or become just the way they are...think in terms of potential....no degree of freedom exists without potential first...Information as a whole contains the chain by which order exists....or better said Information as a whole contains the information by which the rules of order emerge or operate phenomenally speaking...the order of Ratio or Causality emerges from the whole when its timely divided in bits...
Well the original problem is that I don't see time or view time as an emerging property. This is where all the disconnect is happening. I think it is a skewed perspective to suggest that time is an emerging property.
I think time is a constant. However matter can distort space which gives the appearance that time is also being effected however it's not. Since space is bent in the presense of matter time continues but there is an illusion that time as also effected. It was not. So observing an object in motion in a field where matter has bent space would give the appearance that time was changed or time is not constant.
It is a mistake because the space itself being bent accounts for the time discrepency. Time is not an emerging property. I know I go against a huge number of people who say that this is wrong, including einstein. It doesn't matter because the bending of space coinsides with the time descrepency so nothing is actually lost unless you compare non bent space with bent space. We know this happens and account for it but we assume that it is the time that is different not the space.
This is why I have a problem with the concept that the big bang started time. I don't even see how the first moment could even occur with out first having time. Just like if you have a camera that is shooting video. You first have to push record but the act of pushing record requires time. Therefore you never can push record without time first existing. The bang can not occur without time first existing. You can't even have time begin to exist at the moment the big bang triggers. The trigger itself would require time.
This is why I say time is not an emerging property. It is a constant. But in the presense of matter, space is warped which gives the impression that time is being also bent. Only the path is bent which causes all things to take longer to move through the space.