"Austerity" now a dirty word in Europe

@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:

One has to feel sorry for Europe today, since there are too few Jews in Europe to blame now for the economy. Just my Jewish perspective.

As they say: Ojb du wilsst poter wern fun a frajnt, bet baj im a gmiluss-chessed oder laj im a gmiluss-chessed. ...

Please translate. I only know German from the WWII movies. You know, macht schnell, verboten, and all that stuff.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Ojb du wilsst poter wern fun a frajnt, bet baj im a gmiluss-chessed oder laj im a gmiluss-chessed. ...

Please translate. I only know German from the WWII movies. You know, macht schnell, verboten, and all that stuff.

Gladly,

Quote:

Underneath the lantern
By the barrack gate,
Darling I remember
The way you used to wait.
T'was there that you whispered tenderly
That you loved me;
You'd always be

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@izzythepush,

Perhaps, British Jews are less vocal than American Jews about Jewish history? Or, British Jews are more accepted, so they do not focus that much on the past; however, as successful as some American Jews are, in my opinion, anti-Semitism is still alive and well in the U.S. Even amongst the very educated, where it would supposedly be less. But, there it is more of a social exclusion thing. Even amongst the so called liberals. So, just because I am paranoid, that doesn't mean I am not correct. It means I am aware of "the score," and sleeping with one eye open is good for one's survival.

In Foofieland the word "complacent" is a synonym for naive and foolish.

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@CalamityJane,

CalamityJane wrote:

You're right about Foofie - he's the perpetual victim, played to the nines. You get that way when tunnel vision has set in.
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The article of the Guardian is interesting, but in my opinion puts too much pressure on Hollande and too much power in his position. I doubt that he'll be able to turn things around, pragmatism won't help with Greece either. Frankly, I am not so sure that any policy - no matter what it entails - will help Greece. A corrupt government is a corrupt government, new elections won't halt the fiscal demise.

Thank you for talking about me, in my opinion, as though I have no existence. I do not spout my thoughts based on paranoia, or that I am a victim, but based on the fact that I get satisfaction of telling Europeans (especially) that I think they are just being on "good behavior," but they prove that Christianity was a failure in Europe. Most of my contempt is directed at a certain group, if you haven't realized it by now.

I am quite comfortable in the U.S., as long as it remains under the control of white Protestants. God help the Jews, in my opinion, if this became a Catholic country. Just based on my observations, and also my time in the military. So many intelligent white Protestants I met in that part of my life. And, many Catholics; however they were not the big urban center ones. Those tend to be the anti-Semites, in my opinion, since they have had to compete against an urban community that had some Jews. Hey, if smart Germans did not like the competition with pre-WWII German Jews, do you think many an average urban white American, mostly Catholic, has any less antagonism?

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@Foofie,

I'm not an expert, there's two highly successful comedy series out now. Grandma's House and Friday Night Dinner,
which are very British and Jewish.

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@izzythepush,

Thank you; however, this computer is still dial-up modem. It would take a year and a day to see a video. Decades ago, there was a BBC drama that was shown on tv here about a Jewish family and their son getting Bar Mitzvahed. It occurred to me at the time (the latter half of the 20th century), that it was very odd to see that type of drama on tv here, since many Americans, at that time in my opinion, did not like to see anything that smacked of "Jewishness." Society was supposed to still be white, Christian and God forbid if any diversity was shown.

Anyway, the British had Disraeli, and the Balfour Declaration while many an average American still thought the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was gospel, in my opinion. Thank God there is a Britain.

You do know the Nazi Bund party was fairly active in NYC just before the war (yes, the war that in Faulty Towers one shouldn't mention to the tourists waiting to order their food). My point is, I think there is a bit of historical amnesia when I get on my Jewish diatribe, since there are some people that identify with Continental Europe, and would like to forget WWII. Sorry, elephants and Jews never forget. That's why every year Jews celebrate the Exodus (aka, Last Supper) that occurred about 3,000 + years ago. Now, don't tell me to forget anything or that I am paranoid. (Foofie eats paranoia for breakfast.)

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@Foofie,

I didn't realize just how out-of-touch paranoid you are, foofie, until I read that last post. You're living in a mid-20th century world, not 2012.

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@Foofie,

"Ojb du wilsst poter wern fun a frajnt, bet baj im a gmiluss-chessed oder laj im a gmiluss-chessed" is a Yiddish saying, meaning in German Wenn du einen Freund los sein willst, dann bitte ihn um ein Darlehen oder gib ihm ein Darlehen which translates to something like If you want to be rid of a friend, then beg him for a credit or give him a loan

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@Lustig Andrei,

Lustig Andrei wrote:

I didn't realize just how out-of-touch paranoid you are, foofie, until I read that last post. You're living in a mid-20th century world, not 2012.

In the mid-20th century they said we were not living in 17th century Europe and the man with the mustache will not go anywhere. Ha!

The right wing party in Greece just got 20 or so seats in their Parliament.

Please do not direct your opinion of me to me. Without thinking you are going against good etiquette, since in my opinion, on an unconscious level you do not mind offending me. That is part of the pecking order you might not even realize.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

"Ojb du wilsst poter wern fun a frajnt, bet baj im a gmiluss-chessed oder laj im a gmiluss-chessed" is a Yiddish saying, meaning in German Wenn du einen Freund los sein willst, dann bitte ihn um ein Darlehen oder gib ihm ein Darlehen which translates to something like If you want to be rid of a friend, then beg him for a credit or give him a loan

Then tell my mother, who died at age 87 about 18 years ago. She knew Yiddish from her parents that came from Czarist Russia; however, only English was spoken in our house. She used Yiddish as a secret language with her sister, when they did not want Foofie to know what they were talking about.

Also, where are native languages going, since so many Germans, Scandanavians, Dutch seem to have a command of English today? Can you all become Anglo-Saxon novitiates?

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@Foofie,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

As they say: Ojb du wilsst poter wern fun a frajnt, bet baj im a gmiluss-chessed oder laj im a gmiluss-chessed. ...

Foofie wrote:

Please translate. I only know German from the WWII movies. You know, macht schnell, verboten, and all that stuff.

That was Yiddish. You may want to learn it.

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You're letting that clown Foofie hijack the thread, boys . . .

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

You're letting that clown Foofie hijack the thread, boys . . .

At the end of one post I only added, "One has to feel sorry for Europe today, since there are too few Jews in Europe to blame now for the economy. Just my Jewish perspective." In my opinion, it was like throwing fresh meat to lions. They obviously picked up on it. Remember what Shakespeare said, "The lady protesteth too much."

Know go on you way with this post, since it is apparent that some people here do not have your fortitude of will to not react to my comments. My comments fall under the main heading of historical just desserts.

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
As they say: Ojb du wilsst poter wern fun a frajnt, bet baj im a gmiluss-chessed oder laj im a gmiluss-chessed. ...

Foofie wrote:
Please translate. I only know German from the WWII movies. You know, macht schnell, verboten, and all that stuff.

That was Yiddish. You may want to learn it.

Why? Only the Chassidim are Yiddishists? I am only genetically Jewish, or possibly Khazarish? The only thing Jewish about me is my paranoia towards German nationals, and some other groups. Not because they are hostile. On the contrary they are friendly; just false friends, in my opinion. (Wink!)

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I think it is far too early to declare that the popular sentiment across Europe is against the so far prudent and hardly excessive actions the Eurozone nations have taken to defend the common currency, and indeed the financial stability of several member nations. As discomforting as the current fiscal restraint might be, it is a mild experience compared to the collapse that would follow wide spread bank failures and/or rejection by the bond markets for government debt.

`Greece appears likely to leave the Eurozone; default on much of its debt and continue with its own, much devalued, currency. That appears to be be the only way the Greeks can politically assimilate the consequences of their past financial proligacy and overdependence on a government that was cooking its books to provide economic payoffs to its political supporters with borrowed money. However for Spain or Italy there is no such practical option. These countries are burdened with overregulated and sclerotic labor markets which would inhibit sustained economic growth even if they had no current debt problems and could temporarily mask the austerity with massive government spending. Unfortunately for them there is no massive public spending option, given their current deficits and the interest rates their bond markets will require.

Germany doesn't alone have the financial resources to save either Italy or Spain, and I believe is keenly aware that the current crisis is in major part of the collective decisions of Eurozone governments nearly a decade ago to ignore the provisions of the Financial stability Pact to which they agreed when the Euro was launched. During good times the accompanying restraints on public debt and spending seemed unnecessary. Now the world has changed. For that reason, I don't see any prospect of a siugnificant retreat from the new financial pact on the part of the German Government.

In addition, it may well be that Hollande's election in France was as much (or more) a rejection of Sarkozy as a desire to see the programs of the Socialists actually enacted in France. I strongly suspect he too will "do a Mitterand" and govern from the center right.

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@Setanta,

Accuse Foofie of being a troll, Set. That'll really get all the kids all excited.

Setanta: Hey, hey, pay attention to me, will ya?

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

Accuse Foofie of being a troll, Set. That'll really get all the kids all excited.

Setanta: Hey, hey, pay attention to me, will ya?

Perhaps, you should be a psychologist? That's a compliment.

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@Foofie,

Quote:

Perhaps, you should be a psychologist? That's a compliment.

It would have been taken as such without the admission, Foofie. But one doesn't have to be a psychologist to recognize Setanta's sthick. It is always so lame, and, hypocritical as hell.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

Quote:
Perhaps, you should be a psychologist? That's a compliment.

It would have been taken as such without the admission, Foofie. But one doesn't have to be a psychologist to recognize Setanta's sthick. It is always so lame, and, hypocritical as hell.

I do give him extra credit for being a U.S. veteran.

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When my brother and I were kids, "bedtime" was a dirty word too.

Fortunately for our health and well being, throwing tantrums at bedtime didn't put off the inevitable, and we didn't have the option of voting in new parents who were willing to indulge our self-destructive impulses with Keynesian theories of child raising.

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