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WHAT MADE YOU GRIMACE & GRIT YOUR TEETH TODAY?

 
 
AngeliqueEast
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 05:15 am
Glad your ok Dag!
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 05:16 am
However, Dag, as you have time, you can use it to read :

EC Regulation 261/2004 about cancellation and long delay flights - compensation
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ul
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 05:30 am
Dag,
doesn't look good-
if a flight is cancelled due to bad weather ( heavy snow) or terror warnings the airline doesn't have to compensate.

.."ACHTUNG: In folgenden Fällen steht keine Ausgleichsleistung zu:
1. bei außergewöhnlichen Umständen wie zB.
- politischer Instabilität,
- mit der Durchführung des betreffenden Fluges nicht zu vereinbarenden
Wetterbedingungen,
- Sicherheitsrisiken,
- unerwartete Flugsicherheitsmängel und
- den Betrieb der Airline beeinträchtigende Streiks.
Beispiele:
- Ihr Flug wird gestrichen, weil der Zielflughafen aufgrund starken Schneefalls
nicht angeflogen werden kann;
- ein Flug muss aufgrund einer akuten Terrorwarnung abgesagt werden.
Allerdings ist die Fluglinie nur dann nicht zur Zahlung der Ausgleichsleistung
verpflichtet, wenn sie alle zumutbaren Maßnamen getroffen hat, um den Eintritt
dieser außergewöhnlichen Umstände zu vermeiden.

http://portal.wko.at/wk/dok_detail_file.wk?AngID=1&DocID=335557&DstID=7164&StID=174809
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 05:32 am
yes, sadly. i read the law francis posted, and it says this:

(14) As under the Montreal Convention, obligations on operating air carriers should be limited or excluded in cases where an event has been caused by extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken. Such circumstances may, in particular, occur in cases of political instability, meteorological conditions incompatible with the operation of the flight concerned, security risks, unexpected flight safety shortcomings and strikes that affect the operation of an operating air carrier.

(15) Extraordinary circumstances should be deemed to exist where the impact of an air traffic management decision in relation to a particular aircraft on a particular day gives rise to a long delay, an overnight delay, or the cancellation of one or more flights by that aircraft, even though all reasonable measures had been taken by the air carrier concerned to avoid the delays or cancellations.


so i'm out of luck. it would be disastrous for flight companies if they'd have to reimburse or put passengers up in a hotel each time there's a storm or other bad weather. oh well, i didn't expect it anyway.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 02:18 am
My troubles are small compared to dag's, but I'm grimacing anyway. Why?: The ol' tissue in the washing machine trick! The dark wash, of course! Dammit! Mad
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 03:25 pm
Oops! I hate that, MsOlga.

My whole family (minus little sister who is out west) has had a gut-wrenthing weekend. We've have disrupted sleep, angry words, crying, bewilderment, anxiety, and accusations. We're all G&Ging. What a friggin mess. I'm exhausted.
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JPB
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 05:28 pm
Sorry the weekend has been to rough, littlek.

MsOlga - that makes me G&G too. arrrgghh!

Dag, holy crap - what a mess!
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 06:23 pm
What a thread of misery.

Love it.

I almost got ran off the MA Pike by some SUV dumbass on his cell phone. He's in the left lane putting along, so I go to pass him on the right. I'm pretty much right next to him when he starts going right into my lane, no blinker. Slam on the horn, he keeps going. I jam the brakes, right wheel on the rumblestrip. Go around him on the left, pull up alongside, he's just on his phone and doesn't acknowledge the fact he almost ran me off the road, or my middle finger pointed directly at him. People suck.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 06:25 pm
thanks J_B!

Slappy, getting down tot he cape wednesday night was miserable. I was nearly run off the road 3 times.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 06:28 pm
That must have been one FUN ride.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 09:15 pm
The fud up thing about it was that the roads weren't crowded. i think the sunday-driver theory applies to holiday traffic. Lots of people who rarely drive on the roads. One old lady at a rotary didn't yeild and didn't look for rotary traffic, she just drove onto the rotary going a slow and staeady speed. Like if she was going slow enough, no one would hit her. Somehow I managed to get her to take her foot off the gas pedal by laying on the horn or we would have hit. There was no where for me to go but where she was headed.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 09:27 pm
I had one of those today...

After she nearly caused a full smackaroo,

I followed what turned out to be a young woman, not tailgating, but just to get a look, thinking she was a befuddled older person like me. Nah, early twenties, totally non compos mentis. She turned on to one of our local main roads without looking to her left... where I was.

Yeh, I could stop, barely, but then she drove in bewildering slomo.

Now I give people room, because if you live long enough you yourself drive at some point in hysteria of some kind, ill as hell, totally nervous, totally sad, without days of sleep, perhaps under some influence.

usually not all at the same time.

But damn, what a petunia.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 10:03 pm
The infamous cape cod traffic jam is caused because a major high way dead-ends at a rotary (which no one seems to know how to use properly) on the other side of which is a bridge over the canal they cut for shipping.

So, 60 mph to the rotary then 40 mph over a very narrow, 4-lane, undivided bridge. Stoopid SUV driver couldn't keep his damn car in it's lane. So, after I was nearly smashed on the rotary, I was nearly pushed into oncoming traffic on a narrow bridge several hundred feet about the water. lovely. Poor crippled Bootsie wound up on the floor in what looked to be a very uncomfortable position.

But, still, besides the odd number of idiots on the roads, the drive down and back was pleasant.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 11:41 pm
littlek wrote:
My whole family (minus little sister who is out west) has had a gut-wrenthing weekend. We've have disrupted sleep, angry words, crying, bewilderment, anxiety, and accusations. We're all G&Ging. What a friggin mess. I'm exhausted.


Oh, sorry to hear that, k! Sad I knowhow destabilizing these episodes can be on one's equilibrium. Boy, do I know! Shocked I'm not going to ask for details & reasons why on a public forum, but I'm certainly quietly wondering what brought this on! Just be very, very gentle with yourself for a week or two. These things can kind of poison one's system for a bit. Then normality returns when you least expect it. Aghhh! Nothing can undo one as well as one's family can! Nothing. I hope, at least it was a "cleansing" purge. <sigh>
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 11:49 pm
MsO - it wasn't cleansing - or maybe it isn't showing itself to be cleansing yet, perhaps with hindsight it'll look that way. Actually, I'm pretty sure that it will (see? I don't know whether I'm coming or going). I know I'm getting stuff off my chest. The problem is, if I get it off my chest and she doesn't hear it, does it revert back to my chest? Or does it fall in a gutter somewhere? Thing is, I work for her, too, and tomorrow is monday morning. Should be fun.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 11:55 pm
And, thanks for being such a nice person, MsOlga.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 11:56 pm
littlek wrote:
The problem is, if I get it off my chest and she doesn't hear it, does it revert back to my chest? Or does it fall in a gutter somewhere? Thing is, I work for her, too, and tomorrow is monday morning. Should be fun.


Ah, the sister, k! I see! Gotcha!

No, the stuff doesn't revert to your chest or end up in the gutter. After you finally pick yourself up & brush yourself down, k, you realize that you had to do it or bust! Furthermore, next time will be easier. Though probably not quite as harrowing, thank heavens! It's called standing up for yourself! Very Happy Be strong, k! Monday will be over & done before you know it! And you are an assertive woman! Very Happy
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 11:58 pm
Hehehe, the problem is that we all are assertive. Eh.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2005 12:00 am
But you've got more reason right now? Yes?
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2005 12:01 am
As does she. We are a family of strong personalities, stubborn heads and assertive opinions. You don't often get anywhere ina group like that. Family counseling is being discussed.
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