The politics of hoodie wearing

Then Hollywood often gets it wrong.....BTW, at what range was the shot fired? I find it very interesting that so many people are sure they know what happened, yet such a basic fact as this which would give clues I have never seen mentioned.

Having his gunbelt on sure would have stopped him being shot in the back, wouldn't it, Dave?

Didn't do a whole lot of good for Wild Bill Hickock in a similar situation, as I recall.

On the other hand taking the gun away from his shooter would have stopped him being shot,
and would also have stopped the gang from robbing all those trains and banks and committing all those murders.

On the other hand, what did get him shot was a substantial reward, wasn't it?.

Reinforcing my point that there's no such thing as thieve's honor. Mayke it lucrative enough, and you'll get turned in in a New York minute. Cheap at the price. Money usually works better than a bullet, and the body count is usually a whole lot lower.

DAVID wrote:

EVERYONE needs to be able to defend himself or herself at any time.

See, Om, you've provided more proof that while words such as 'everyone' is treated as grammatically singular, it is notionally plural.

Everyone, please stand up does not ever result in only one person standing up.

Fortunately, we live in a free country
where we need not be concerned of such oppression.

But you are told where you can and cannot travel, who you can and cannot do business with.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that I am not arguing for anyone. I'm arguing against rushing to judgment based on ideological assumptions, and sketchy and contradicting reports.

If I have made an argument for how Martin's claims could be true it is to demonstrate that the folks who are so sure that they know what happened that night, don't really.

It is not difficult to imagine a scenario wherein Zimmerman shot the kid in actual self-defense, and it's not hard to imagine one wherein he did it because he wanted to take care of one of the punks he was sick and tired of. The former is justifiable; the latter not.

I'm also arguing against the hypocrisy of those who find this case one of clear cut injustice, but not the one in Arizona.

These are the folks who claim that the only racial element they're focused on is that if had been Martin and not Zimmerman who shot someone in alleged defense, he would have been arrested and thrown in jail.

This case has been so racially charged by people who benefit by racial tension that I'm afraid that it doesn't matter how it is resolved. The folks who have been filled with anger over this case are not going to let it easily go, no matter what.

EVERY is multiple, without limit.

GM must have been questioned by the police. Given that he wasn't charged, wouldn't those discussions be part of the public record?

Somehow, I seriously doubt you would have been mollified by the Florida police saying that just because they hadn't yet arrested Zimmerman doesn't mean that they won't.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that I am not arguing for anyone. I'm arguing against rushing to judgment based on ideological assumptions, and sketchy and contradicting reports.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that I am not arguing for anyone. I'm arguing against rushing to judgment based on ideological assumptions, and sketchy and contradicting reports.

lot of strawmen

I'm not quite sure what your point is other than you are trying shove YOUR reality into what I think.

I knew one of the usual suspects would try to tell us how the two stories are dramatically different.

They have to be since you've invested so much in your outrage over the Martin incident.

Where? I don't see any in your quote, Parados. Until you point them out you, in fact, have just created your own straw man

U can plead and beg him for your life,
hoping that he will not kill u for the fun of it; u can hope, and let HIM control the situation. Live in his DISCRETION.
I 'd prefer to kill him. That is good for America; a valuable public service.