The politics of hoodie wearing

And as the law is playing out in actual effect, if someone says they thought they could be subject to deadly force, they get off You don't have to actually prove anything, it's purely your state of mind.

The thing is, Hawkeye, Trayvon, not having a gun, was perfectly justified in bashing Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk, assuming, and it's a huge assumption, that that happened and it's anything like the full story of what happened, because he saw a perfectly justified threat against his own life in Zimmerman's actions. Under Florida law, he had a total unquestionable right to bash Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk.

Other lawyers did the same thing; it was not unusual.
I don 't recall that there was ever any controversy about it

The thing is, Hawkeye, Trayvon, not having a gun, was perfectly justified in bashing Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk, assuming, and it's a huge assumption, that that happened and it's anything like the full story of what happened, because he saw a perfectly justified threat against his own life in Zimmerman's actions. Under Florida law, he had a total unquestionable right to bash Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk.

For example, twice as many blacks and Hispanics as whites say race played a major role in the shooting death of Trayvon (73 to 36 percent). The Monitor/TIPP poll of 906 adults taken from March 30 to April 5 finds other disparities as well.
• Younger respondents are more likely to see race as playing a major role in the case than those of middle age (66 to 43 percent).
• Women more so than men (48 to 39 percent).
• Those of modest income more than the wealthy (51 to 37 percent).
• Democrats much more so than Republicans (64 to 32 percent)

No indeed, it would not, because the headline "black guy arrested for killing innocent neighbor hood watch guy", though it would play well for the NRA, doesn't touch anyone's injustice nerve the way this story has. Just for fun, google "unarmed man shot" and let me know how long it takes you to get to a white guy.

http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/04/daniel-adkins-killer-claims-self.html

You don't count on whether or not it's questionable, David. Only the Florida justice system does,and they say they can't get convictions even for gang war participants and drug dealers who evoke it. And I notice you accept everything Zimmerman says, full of holes, apparent either misstatements of fact or outright lies, and chanageable as it is, as something akin to holy writ.

It was Trayvon, not Zimmerman, who was crying for help

On the contrary, David. Trayvon's position, though he was unfortunately slaughtered and is not here to present it, seems far more plausible. You're so blinded by kneejerk defense of willy-nilly vigilante shooting that you're apparently incapable of even conceiving that it resulted in somebody innocent being killed. It did.

It's a sickeningly bad law, and with luck it looks like there's enough of a backlash that maybe
we can finally get some sensible gun law again.

On the contrary, David. Trayvon's position, though he was unfortunately slaughtered and is not here to present it, seems far more plausible. You're so blinded by kneejerk defense of willy-nilly vigilante shooting that you're apparently incapable of even conceiving that it resulted in somebody innocent being killed. It did. It's a sickeningly bad law, and with luck it looks like there's enough of a backlash that maybe we can finally get some sensible gun law again. And the light is beginning to shine on the murky doings of the American Legislative Exchange Council, who are writing the templates for these laws, as well as other profoundly troubling unAmerican legislation, bankrolled by large corporations. CocaCola and Pepsi, some of their largest contributors, have pulled out of ALEC due to the backlash against them. May that be the start of something better for America.

says who? Last I heard the owner of the voice had not been identified.

R u a satanist ?

Cops: Dad dies after shielding son, 8, from barrage of bulletsBy Samantha Tata, NBC Los Angeles

Police are asking the public to help identify suspects involved in an Inglewood shooting that left a 28-year-old father dead after he shielded his 8-year-old son from the barrage of bullets.

Fredrick Martin and his son, Tre, were in front of their garage Tuesday night when gunfire broke out, police said.


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When he heard the shots, the man pushed his son to the ground and covered him with his body. Martin suffered gunshot wounds to his abdomen and upper torso and later died at the hospital.

'Ultimate sacrifice'
"The investigation is not going well," Lt. James Madia with Inglewood police said, adding that detectives are working on a few conflicting descriptions of the possible suspects and their cars.

Advertise | AdChoicesMartin’s son, who shared a home with his father, mother and grandmother, suffered only a minor graze wound, Madia said.

Martin's wife Amanda is five months pregnant, according to a family friend.

About two dozen friends and family mourned Martin near his home Friday night.

"We know that there was an ultimate sacrifice made on the other night," one said during a prayer.