@farmerman,
Quote:The Haldane dilemma ( To which Haldane himself recognized his error .
Haldane was a committed evoloser, like you. He recognized a gigantic problem and published it assuming that other evolosers would find a way to make it go away, and they never did.
http://evolutionfairytale.com/articles_debates/haldane_rebuttal.htm
Fred Williams:
Answering Evolutionist Attempts to Dismiss "Haldane's Dilemma"
Quote:...In 1993 Walter ReMine’s book "The Biotic Message"1 hit the street, bringing with it several devastating arguments against evolution that are still clamoring through the halls and smoke rooms of the evolutionary faithful. One of these arguments is based on a paper by J. B. S Haldane in 19572 that showed the reproductive capacity of vertebrates was way too low to pay the costs needed to account for large-scale evolution. This problem is referred to as “Haldane’s Dilemma” (go here for an online discussion of the problem by Walter ReMine).
Refuting Robert Williams
So far I have only encountered one attack against Haldane’s Dilemma that offers any kind of sophistication, one posted on the internet by Robert Williams. It regularly shows up early in search engines when searching on “Haldane’s Dilemma”, so evolutionists often cite it or copy from it.
There are many, many problems with Robert Williams’ article. When I first read it, I became very suspicious that he had never read ReMine's book since ReMine deals with most of Williams’ arguments in his book. I contacted Mr. ReMine, and he confirmed that Williams eventually admitted on the newsgroup sci.bio.evolution to not having read the book. On several occasions I attempted to contact Williams about this, but he did not reply. It is very unfortunate that Williams refuses to do the right thing and properly review ReMine’s book before posting a rebuttal.
Nevertheless, since so many evolutionists refer to Williams' tenuous paper, I thought I would address its arguments. Robert Williams’ comments appear in italic green......
Long paper which totally annihilates the standard evoloser position which Formerman is attempting to cite here.
Evolosers have their positions on every issue which anybody could ever bring up with evolution and I could never hope to get the last word or the last post in against the formermen of the world, but it doesn't take much digging to get to the bottom of any of these issues and they all are toxic to evolution.