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I just don’t understand drinking and driving

 
 
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 10:40 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I don't think you should think about orgasm while holding your gun, dave...

you might pop one off.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 10:55 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
It's a shame you lack the maturity to discuss any topic on an adult level.

And it's a bigger shame that you crap up thread after thread with your infantile nonsense.


It a good thing that us evil male have no feelings to be hurt...........

As a side note it would be fun to see who the interlock manufacturers are funneling funds to in both the Congress and the states houses.

We have the best damn government money can buy.

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Good old Thomas Jefferson quotes

"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society."

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. "

'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty"

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? "



.





Rockhead
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 10:57 pm
@BillRM,
I think you should take your gun and revolt, billy.

seriously...
BillRM
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:02 pm
@BillRM,
Here is even a more to the point quote concerning giving up freedoms..

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:08 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Here is even a more to the point quote concerning giving up freedoms..

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin


Do you REALLY want to get into what the founders would think of todays insipid spineless drama queens? "OMG, If it saves ONE life then we have to do it!"....people actually believe that ****. They are ready to give up everything to anybody who promises them "SAFETY!"
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:09 pm
@Rockhead,
That's kinda funny, Rocky. I appreciate your advice. I like it.





David
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firefly
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:09 pm
Quote:
Department of Public Safety urges DWI offenders to use interlock device
June 28, 2012

St. Paul, MN — Increased DWI patrols are slated for this weekend, nearly one year since enhanced impaired driving sanctions became effective in Minnesota, which includes the use of ignition interlock.

Repeat DWI offenders, as well as first-time offenders arrested at 0.16 and above alcohol-concentration level must use interlock in order to regain legal driving privileges, or face at least one year without a driver’s license. Offenders with three or more offenses are required to install interlock and use for three to six years, or they will never regain driving privileges.

Each year in Minnesota, 40 percent of the alcohol-related traffic deaths involve repeat offenders.

Since July 1, 2011, 2,796 eligible DWI offenders have joined the interlock program, a figure Department of Public Safety (DPS) officials hope will grow as more offenders see its benefits — specifically, legal driving privileges.

“Interlock benefits Minnesota’s road safety by ensuring offenders are driving sober, while also providing offenders with a pathway to legal driving,” says Jean Ryan, DPS impaired driving programs coordinator. “This technology helps to support those impacted and improve public safety.”

Ryan adds a main goal of interlock is to prevent impaired driving and reduce DWI re-offenses — of the 2,796 interlock users, 2 percent have reoffended. U.S. DOT studies show that 70 percent of DWI offenders drive illegally after arrest. The Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation reports interlock devices can reduce repeat DWI offenses on average 64 percent.

Offenders interested in using interlock may visit www.MinnesotaIgnitionInterlock.org.

Last year, 111 people were killed in alcohol-impaired crashes (crashes involving drivers or pedestrians with a 0.08 alcohol-concentration, representing 30 percent of the state’s total 368 traffic deaths. In 2011, 29,257 motorists are arrested for DWI.

This weekend, increased DWI patrols will be in the state’s 13 counties that accounted for nearly half of the state’s alcohol-related deaths (202) and half of the state’s serious injuries (462) during 2008–2010. The top-ranked counties for alcohol-related deaths and serious injuries: Hennepin, Ramsey, Anoka, St. Louis, Dakota, Wright, Olmsted, Rice, Washington, Stearns, Sherburne, Scott and Carver.

How Interlock Works
Ignition interlock is installed under a vehicle’s dashboard and connected to the starter. Users must provide a breath sample into the interlock, which requires an alcohol concentration below 0.02 in order for the vehicle to start.

Interlock Anti-Circumvention Features
• “Rolling re-tests” require driver to provide a breath sample three to five minutes after starting the vehicle, and randomly thereafter.

• In-car cameras record all breath tests. Video and test results are available for DPS to monitor.

• Specific hum or “suck back” patterns required when providing breath sample.

• Users are required to have the interlock calibrated monthly by a service provider. Service providers will run reports that indicate how many times the vehicle started, number of rolling re-tests, and any test fails (an alcohol-concentration limit of 0.02 or above). Service providers will send reports to DPS for review and to take appropriate action or extend sanctions.

Who is erligible for interlock
Repeat DWI offenders, as well as first-time offenders arrested at 0.16 and above alcohol-concentration level must use interlock in order to regain legal driving privileges, or face at least one year without a driver’s license. Offenders with three or more offenses are required to install and use interlock for three to six years, or they will never regain driving privileges.

Based on historical data, officials expect around 21,000 DWI offenders to be eligible for interlock sanctions during a given year.

Cost of an interlock is $3-$4 per day.

In the nation, 32 states including Minnesota use ignition interlock for first-time DWI offenders.
http://hometownsource.com/2012/06/28/department-of-public-safety-urges-dwi-offenders-to-use-interlocka-device/
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:09 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
I think you should take your gun and revolt, billy.

seriously...


Jefferson would agree with you seriously.........

“Every generation needs a new revolution.”
Thomas Jefferson

"And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure"

Thomas Jefferson








BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
They are ready to give up everything to anybody who promises them "SAFETY!"


The sad part is there is no safety in giving up freedoms only chains.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:14 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
We have the best damn government money can buy.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Good old Thomas Jefferson quotes

"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength,
and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society."

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. "

'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty"

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time
that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? "
I ESPECIALLY like the 3rd & 4th of those, Bill.

THANK U for those.





David
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:14 pm
Quote:
Santa Fe man booked on 9th drunken driving charge
July 12, 2012

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — A Santa Fe man accused of driving a four-wheeled all-terrain vehicle while he was intoxicated was booked on his ninth drunken driving charge.

A police report cited by the Santa Fe New Mexican says 33-year-old Angelo Ruiz fled from his home Tuesday after he had hit his girlfriend earlier in the evening and was pulled over on the ATV by an officer who spotted him.

Officers noticed that Ruiz had an ignition interlock driver's license but no interlock device on the unregistered ATV.

Records show Ruiz was arrested on drunken driving charges eight previous times in the past 12 years.

Ruiz faces a maximum of three years in prison if convicted in the latest case.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Santa-Fe-man-booked-on-9th-drunken-driving-charge-3701950.php

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:18 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
The sad part is there is no safety in giving up freedoms only chains


Sure, but the vast majority of Americans are too stupid to know that. They are prime victims for those who know how to get what they want from the ignorant and have no moral compunction in doing so. The victim culture in the end only succeeds in making more victims.

The arresting irony is one that will be long talked about in the history files of our grandkids and great grandkids.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
The arresting irony is one that will be long talked about in the history files of our grandkids and great grandkids.


We may end up having as many great grandkids as Carthage did after the third Punic war.l

Our history will likely be taught not by us but by more successful cultures as the history of Carthage was taught by Rome and the descendants of Romain culture.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:38 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Quote:
Santa Fe man booked on 9th drunken driving charge
July 12, 2012

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — A Santa Fe man accused of driving a four-wheeled all-terrain vehicle while he was intoxicated was booked on his ninth drunken driving charge.

A police report cited by the Santa Fe New Mexican says 33-year-old Angelo Ruiz fled from his home Tuesday after he had hit his girlfriend earlier in the evening and was pulled over on the ATV by an officer who spotted him.

Officers noticed that Ruiz had an ignition interlock driver's license but no interlock device on the unregistered ATV.

Records show Ruiz was arrested on drunken driving charges eight previous times in the past 12 years.

Ruiz faces a maximum of three years in prison if convicted in the latest case.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Santa-Fe-man-booked-on-9th-drunken-driving-charge-3701950.php
I loved a reality TV show I saw maybe a couple of years ago.
It showed a jail, somewhere out west.
( I don't smoke n I 've never used marijuana. )
It showed a Sheriff who became alarmed when the aroma
of some cannabis wafted over to him from inside his jail
(on camera). He ran in and found that a generous prisoner
had brawt it in and passed it around, giving rise to an incense.

The Sheriff became incensed. He robbed the prisoners of their marijuana.

THAT is the GOOD and proper spirit of AMERICANISM,
exalting the Individual above the collective and above its henchman, government.





David
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:52 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
exalting the Individual above the collective and above its henchman, government


collectivism can be great, but it is not when it is the result of the business end of the whip, as it is today. What we have now is more correctly called "slavery"
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 11:56 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:


Our history will likely be taught not by us but by more successful cultures as the history of Carthage was taught by Rome and the descendants of Romain culture.




Quote:
Well, in my book you either do it right or you get eliminated

Gordon Gecko
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 01:14 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I think you should take your gun and revolt, billy.

seriously...


Jefferson would agree with you seriously.........

“Every generation needs a new revolution.”
Thomas Jefferson
It may sound good, as a matter of abstract theory,
but in practice FACTIONALISM 'd yield unstable, uncertain results; a lot of inconsistency,
in addition to the carnage.





David
BillRM
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 04:00 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Well I agree with you that once a generation is overdoing it however from time to time it seems that we might end up with no choice in the matter.

This may be one of those times as our justice system is producing anything but justice for the majority of the people who find themselves in it and our government is up for bid to the highest bidder.

Oh an the fireflies of the world are writing into our legal codes their own crazy versions of morality.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 04:23 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


I suspect that, nationwide, liberals have a collective orgasm
every time that thay succeed in reducing n limiting freedom of the American citizen.


You like to pick and choose your freedoms Dave. Using technology to reduce drunk driving is something only idiots like Hawkeye and RM oppose. The greatest assault on Amercan personal freedom of late was the Patriot Act. And it was your fellow conservatives, that had a collective orgasm when that pernicious piece of legislation was passed.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 04:48 am
@izzythepush,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


I suspect that, nationwide, liberals have a collective orgasm
every time that thay succeed in reducing n limiting freedom of the American citizen.
izzythepush wrote:
You like to pick and choose your freedoms Dave.
Using technology to reduce drunk driving is something only idiots like Hawkeye and RM oppose.
IF that were true, then such devices 'd be imposed on cars now; such is not the case.


izzythepush wrote:
The greatest assault [??] on Amercan personal freedom of late was the Patriot Act.
Checking on people's records of books borrowed from public libraries???


izzythepush wrote:

And it was your fellow conservatives, that had a collective orgasm when that pernicious piece of legislation was passed.
No. That was not the case.
That bill was drawn under the Clinton Administration n was held in waiting for an inviting event.
I was not happy about it, nor do I know any conservatives who were. (The Bushes r not conservatives. )
I usually BUY my books and do so in freedom.
I don't wanna have to give them back. I mark them in colored ink for future reference.
The Patriot Act was enacted to please W. I 'd have voted against it, but not that big of a deal.
 

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