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Sarkozy overheard telling Obama that Netanyahu is a 'liar'

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2013 09:05 am
@Advocate,
Your language is racist because you are racist.

Any horrors committed by Palestinians pale into insignificance when compared to the zionists.
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2013 09:26 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Your language is racist because you are racist.

Any horrors committed by Palestinians pale into insignificance when compared to the zionists.


Do you manage to keep a straight face when you spout that nonsense?
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2013 09:50 am
@Advocate,
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How does a defensive action result in the total conquest of someone else's lands? The answer is that it does not. Israel is the aggressor. The maps of Israel then and now prove it.

Stop buying into what Sharon claims Israel "has to do" and look at what Israel has actually done. The maps tell the story of a nation eager to conquer lands which do not belong to it. Israel has invaded virtually every nation it shares borders with, including Syria and Lebanon, and as the map above shows has almost conquered Palestine and is ready to "ethnically cleanse" the region. Far from being the poor victimized society desperately defending itself Israel likes to pretend it is in order to wrest more money from Americans, Israel is in fact the most militarily aggressive nation in the region.

Israel has ALWAYS portrayed non-Israelis as animals, in order to make it easier for the American tax payers who pay for the weapons accept their killing. And Israel has always resorted to staged terror bombings to further its agenda, such as the Lavon affair and more recently when a supposed suicide bomber turned out to be a known Israeli collaborator. In one recent case photos showed that what was reported as a suicide bomb in Jerusalem was actually a car bomb.

Even now, the Israeli media admits that nobody (other than the purported bomber) was actually hurt in this latest bombing. Now, would a real anti-Israel suicide bomber, obviously able to select where and when the bomb is to go off, really choose to detonate the bomb when there is nobody around, damaging ONLY buildings?

So, if you are being lied to about the Jerusalem bombings, and with Israel's past use of, indeed PRIDE of, deception as a tool to be used against friend and enemy alike, it's time to take another hard look at the fact that every other nation on Earth except the United States is opposed to what Israel is doing.

You know, if the United States REALLY wanted peace in Palestine, all they have to do is stop signing the checks that pay for Israel's war machine.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
-- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2013 02:45 pm
@Advocate,
Do you spend all your life looking the other way?
Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2013 11:36 am
@Moment-in-Time,
The material is full of lies. Just to mention one, it is totally false that Israelis look at Pals as animals. It is the other way around, with the Pal and other Muslim madrasses teaching kids that Jews are pigs and rats.

A good answer to the crap you posted is the fact that Israel never put a foot on WB and Gazan soil, despite hundreds of attacks on Israel, until the '67 War. This is so despite the Pals trashing Jewish holy sites, including cemetaries. E. g., the Pals filled the Western Wall area with flea markets and similar, and never let Jews visit it. Is it any wonder that Israel took control of the WB and, later, Gaza.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2013 11:36 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Do you spend all your life looking the other way?


Are you always so profound?
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Sat 30 Mar, 2013 10:05 am
@JTT,
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"They told stories about how inattentive and inept the President was.... They said he wouldn't come to work--all he wanted to do was to watch movies and television at the residence."
--Jim Cannon (an aide to Howard Baker)


It's remarkable the pedestal Ronald Reagan is placed on today when realistically, he was an actor, who merely played the role of president. Reagan, it is now known, had the onset of Alzheimers and was almost 70 years old as he became the 40th president of the US. It was bad enough he had dementia setting in but he was shot in the lung in his first term by John Hinckley, Jr. In his second term he had cancer of the colon, so in effect, Ronald Reagan was in bad health throughout most of this two terms; he was all image with others being responsible for the Iran-Contra affair and the running of his administration. So it's no wonder he spent a lot of time watching old black and white movies and leaving his administration to others. At least he did not invade a sovereign nation the way GWB did.

I think there should be a cutoff date for the US presidency, after all, as one begin to age, the body breaks down and some candidates are not as attentive as they should be to detail. Certainly, a huge powerful influential position like the US presidency should have people in the prime of health, with no question of mental deterioration in the near future.
Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 30 Mar, 2013 11:54 am
@Moment-in-Time,
I can't believe it. I actually agree with one of our posts (the one on Reagan).
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Sat 30 Mar, 2013 02:17 pm
@Advocate,
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I can't believe it. I actually agree with one of your posts (the one on Reagan).


LOL! You see, Advocate, even opposites agree once in a while!
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 12:28 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
Your comment trivalizing the rockets and missiles fired by the Gazans into Israel shows, if anyone doubted it for a moment, your extreme anti-Israel views.


Izzythepush is a Nazi. It's sort of a given that he can't see anything wrong with murdering innocent Israelis.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 01:05 am
@Moment-in-Time,

izzythepush wrote:
We entered a peace process with Ireland, something Israel is unwilling to do.


Israel was quite willing to enter the peace process.

The peace process only collapsed because the Palestinians decided that they were more interested in murdering children than in making peace.



izzythepush wrote:
The figures speak for themselves, during operation cast lead alone 1,417 Palestinians were killed with only 13 Israeli deaths, 4 of whom were killed by the Israelis themselves.


Izzythepush likes to whine about fictitious deaths of fictitious Palestinians. Laughing

(As for the few Palestinians who actually died for real, perhaps they shouldn't have been trying to murder innocent Israelis if they didn't want to be killed in self defense.)
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 01:16 am
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:
By Israel always placing obstacles to the peace talks, it gives the impression it does not want to change the status quo.


Note the fact that the Palestinians are the ones who keep putting obstacles in front of talks, and they even refuse to show up to talk when people comply with their obstacles.

Note the fact that it was the Palestinians (with the help of the UN) who abrogated the Oslo Accords and rendered further peace talks impossible.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
It's not too much to ask the scheming PM to stop building settlements on land he does not own and then invite Abbas to the table to talk!


Actually, it is too much. If the Palestinians want a halt to settlement construction, they can come to the negotiating table and talk about it.

They have no right to get concessions for free without negotiating for them.

More to the point, a few years back, Obama got the Israelis to halt settlement construction for 10 full months by offering them a large supply of 5000-pound bunker busters to hit Iran's illegal nuclear program with.

And even though settlement construction was halted for that entire 10 month period, the Palestinians still refused to come and talk.

Oh, and as the construction is largely on land west of the Separation Fence, it is in fact on land that Israel owns.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
No, stalling is a friend if Netanyahu. In four years, he might get a US president who do not care about people or the Palestinian rights, and Israel can take all the land it want with its continued persecution of the Pals.


Telling a Palestinian he can't murder children is hardly "persecution".

And Israel is only going to take the land west of the Separation Fence.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
The right to life is the most fundamental of all rights, yet, Israel's killing of the Palestinians is astounding, as if these people are of no importance.


Hardly astounding. It's called self defense.

Jews have just as much right as anyone else to defend themselves from those who attack them.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
The hatred that is so deeply inbedded within some in Israeli society is unbelievable in the wake of WW2....


There is no hatred involved. It's just self defense.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
one would think they of all people would know what it was like to be humiliated, denigrated, kept down and finally killed without remorse.


That's why they refuse to allow the Palestinians to harm them.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
There was a New York Times Reporter imbedded with the IDF as they patrolled the West Bank. According to him, every few stops an IDF solder would get out of the back of his truck and fire a shot into the Palestinian crowd, hitting someone, and not looking back.


Balderdash.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
There was a Palestinian boy throwing rocks at an IDF soldier. The soldier walked over to him (this was also recorded by an imbedded reporter) took his little arm and broke it into three places.....this was aired on the evening news in the US. The cracking sound was picked up by the reporters's microphone. The tiny little boy wet his pans so afraid was he.


A thrown stone is a lethal weapon. Normally Palestinians who throw stones are shot through the head with .50 BMG rifles.



Moment-in-Time wrote:
It's as if WW2 turned the surviving Jews and its offspring into demons of hell.


That's silly. All they do is defend themselves from people who refuse to make peace.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 03:41 am
@Moment-in-Time,
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How does a defensive action result in the total conquest of someone else's lands?


I cannot think of any nation that Israel has totally conquered.



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Israel is the aggressor.


Nope. The Palestinians are the aggressors.

The Palestinians are the ones who insist on attacking Israel, and the Palestinians are the ones who refuse to ever make peace.



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The maps of Israel then and now prove it.
Stop buying into what Sharon claims Israel "has to do" and look at what Israel has actually done. The maps tell the story of a nation eager to conquer lands which do not belong to it.


Actually, the maps show that Israel traded the Sinai to Egypt in return for peace.

And the maps show that Israel started to trade the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinians in exchange for peace (a process that was halted when the Palestinians refused peace because they wanted to murder children instead).

And the West Bank most certainly belongs to Israel. It is their ancient homeland after all.



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Israel has invaded virtually every nation it shares borders with, including Syria and Lebanon,


Only in self defense.



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and is ready to "ethnically cleanse" the region.


Making up false accusations against Jews is so 1945.



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Israel has ALWAYS portrayed non-Israelis as animals,


Making up false accusations against Jews is so 1945.



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And Israel has always resorted to staged terror bombings to further its agenda,


No, the terror bombings are real.

Muslims like murdering innocent people. They think it's fun.



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So, if you are being lied to about the Jerusalem bombings,


It's no lie that Muslims think murdering innocent people is a lot of fun.



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and with Israel's past use of, indeed PRIDE of, deception as a tool to be used against friend and enemy alike,


So, the Jews are deceiving everyone?

Was it really necessary to cut-n-paste this Nazi drivel here?



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it's time to take another hard look at the fact that every other nation on Earth except the United States is opposed to what Israel is doing.


Another case of anti-Semites pretending they speak for the world.



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You know, if the United States REALLY wanted peace in Palestine, all they have to do is stop signing the checks that pay for Israel's war machine.


Since the lack of peace is due to the Palestinians refusing to make peace and insisting on murdering innocent people, cutting funds to Israel will do nothing to achieve peace.

All it would do is force Israel to be more aggressive about defending themselves.



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"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
-- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.


The Jews secretly control everything?

Again, was it really necessary to cut-n-paste this Nazi drivel here?
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:00 am
@oralloy,
Thanks -- they are really cogent replies to an obvious anti-Semite.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:08 am
@Advocate,
By their associates you will know them.


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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:45 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
Thanks -- they are really cogent replies to an obvious anti-Semite.


Really, I was replying to a cut-n-paste of an article.

But yes, the anti-Semitism in the article was pretty bad.
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